1700s sash buckle?

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  1. Michael Little

    Michael Little New Member

    20180601_092845.jpg 20180601_092845.jpg 20180601_092845.jpg 20180601_092839.jpg Hi everybody im new here, I have what I think is a 1700s brass engraved religious sash buckle. It is a big heavy lump of brass and has symbols and writing on it and was bought by a family member from a market around the early 90s, I have no idea what it is or who's it was and I would very much appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction as in info,specialist to see..many thanks
     
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum, Michael.
    Your object looks like a pendant. How big is it?
    It is not antique, it was probably not very old when your family member bought it.
     
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  3. Michael Little

    Michael Little New Member

    Hi thanks for the reply it is around 6cm in width, it does have a date on the engraving and was made for we think is j,m browe and has a date on what we think is 1725, how could you tell that it is not very old? Thanks
     
  4. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I don`t believe those figures are 1725, most of the lettering is jumbled up and not any language I know of.

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  5. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Welcome to the Forum, Michael!
    If you turn this around and read it, it seems to be a prose about death. Maybe written by Sir Browe.
    He had many religious and death related writings.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Browne
    I agree with Davey that doesn’t seem like a year.
     
  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  7. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Wow, Excellent! Nailed it.!
     
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The style of the symbols is not at all 18th century European. The style and spacing of the symbols has a Modernist influence.
    The bronze looks too recent, 18th century bronze has a beautiful soft, almost buttery patina.
    And I have seen many items like this, with historic texts and random esoteric-looking symbols, made in the 70s and later.
     
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  9. Michael Little

    Michael Little New Member

    Wow thanks for the info everybody, also I Genuinly thought it had a bit age about it as doesn't look or feel modern but I certainly wouldn't doubt your knowledge , great forum by the way everyone is so helpful and people are so informative, thanks again
     
  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Not entirely random. An angel for Heaven & a skeleton for Death. Both in style you see on old grave markers. Not to say this piece is necessarily old. Could have been cast from an old watch fob. Think we can definitely say it is not a sash buckle.
     
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  11. i need help

    i need help Moderator Moderator

    Thank you for sharing your piece with us. Hopefully you will continue hunting and be back with more!
     
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  12. Michael Little

    Michael Little New Member

    Not a problem, thanks for your help, got some more bits and pieces I can get on the forum when I get a bit time..cheers
     
  13. NewEngland

    NewEngland Well-Known Member

    I think it's great. I would hang it from a black silk cord as a pendant. Very nice!
     
  14. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It looks like half of a very ornamental toggle clasp. Age is..not much.
     
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  15. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    WELCOME Michael !!! .. Joy.
     
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  16. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Weighing in with my agreement that this interesting piece is fairly modern.
    Welcome to the forum!
     
  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Perfect idea.:)
     
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  18. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Welcome on board Michael! :)
     
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  19. AuDragon

    AuDragon Well-Known Member

    Welcome ML, this is such an interesting place and certainly expands your knowledge. The members are awesome! :)
     
  20. DamonC

    DamonC New Member

    There is a piece missing from the brooch. There should be a pin which is hinged at the hole and extends to the edge of the opposite side. I believe that this is called a pseudo penannular brooch. I have an identical item and have been stumped about determining when it was made

    Damon
     
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