Featured 14" charger with Mandarin mark of honor. Real Kanxi or not really?

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  1. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    from a recent auction.
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  2. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    I suspect it's a mid 19th century one. Really hard to be sure without handling in person though.
     
  3. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    What would you look for if you were handling in person?
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    not to drop it !!! :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
  5. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Everybody's got Kangxi fever !...and why not-$$$$$. I stuffed a couple rice bowls in my pockets when we left the Chinese Restaurant (got my fingers crossed).
    Truly knowing Chinese Ceramics-great skill to have.
    PS-I talked to a guy whose had a shop in Sellwood Oregon since the 60's,and he said the mainland Chinese come in with hi-power magnification tools to examine his Asian ceramics.
     
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  6. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Nooo. A date mark stewpieeed.
     
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  7. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

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  8. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    It's lovely.
     
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  9. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    are mot of the symbols buddhist?
     
  10. Ce BCA

    Ce BCA Well-Known Member

    The glaze, the way it lies on the surface. The foot is one of the most telling points, the way it's cut and finished. Impurities (or lack of) in the clay. The overall finish, any signs of brushwork and the confidence of the strokes. The colours of the glaze and the painting - in particular the colour of the clear glaze looks too 'muddy' for an early piece - but internet pics are not great for assessing this.
     
  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    stewpieed............u mean Stupid ???>

    u don't really mean to be calling me stupid.....now do ya ?
     
  12. Sdcookie2

    Sdcookie2 Well-Known Member

  13. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    wow this was just a really nice bit of insight. thanks CeB
     
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  14. gckimm

    gckimm Active Member

    The symbols are not Buddhist but appear to be a random collection of "ordinary" auspicious symbols. They include an artemisia leaf (4:00), books (9:00), rhinoceros horns (10:00), and castanets (under the right peacock feather in the large vase in the center).
     
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  15. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

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  16. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    Hi gc: I see a beribboned thing is that supposed to be the Mandarin mark of honor? and what is it? a hat of some sort?
     
  17. gckimm

    gckimm Active Member

    I'm not sure which one you mean. A lot of the symbols have ribbons. Can you be a little more specific?
     
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  18. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    the squares with ribbons. There is one at about 12:30 and anther about 1 OClock. Also another at 5 oclock and another at 5 oclock only closer to the center.

    And also isnt that a buddhist fungus symbol at 4 OClock and 7 OClock?
     
  19. gckimm

    gckimm Active Member

    I believe those squares are lozenges. The symbol at 4:00 is an artemisia leaf, as I mentioned above. At 7:00 is what I believe is a gourd-shaped fan. The design, while charming, is a little primitive, so it is not easy to identify all of the items.
     
  20. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    I disagree somewhat. Compare to 8 Precious Buddhist symbols shown at the bottom of this page.

    https://www.patergratiaorientalart.com/home/1407

    I see Lozenge, sacred fungus, incense burner.

    Perhaps conch shell, mandarin mark of honor (the more circular of the two similar with the square being the lozenge)

    thanks for your comments gck and everyone else.
     
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