How to identify south, southeast Asian furniture?

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  1. dialanche

    dialanche New Member

    Hey all, this is a bit of a long shot, but might as well ask on a forum dedicated to antiques.

    I'm a writer, working on a sci-fi book, and among the many unhinged ideas I had, one of them is identification of imported furniture at a glance.

    If I wanted to identify the country of origin of basic wooden furniture, like cabinets, chairs, wardrobes, etc., modern or 20th century, what would I be looking for? What are the unique characteristics found on furniture from India, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, etc., that you look for, and that make you go, "Oh! That has to be 1960s Burma!"

    Is it wood color? Carving method? Joints method? Metalwork?

    Is it even possible, or is it just approximation, since many of southeast Asian countries share the same trees?
     
  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    All the above.... mixed in with many years of experience , and book learning of styles and hands on touching....

    Oh...& you'll luv this.... " never judge a book by it's cover "

    Hardware can be swapped out...
    table tops can be added or replaced..
    pieces may be missing
    & of course...Revival..... items made to look like period pieces....
    large or small , over time some items may have been stripped... stained, or painted to suit a more modern look..

    Yes....the type of wood used is an important part of identification as well....

    So.... at a glance... off the cuff.... one has to be well practiced...well seasoned...with many years of training a good eye..... for that kind of snap identification to hold any value at all !!!
     
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I didn't mention any marking on an item...... cuz your parameter of at a glance ... does not allow for a close up inspection of the furniture parts , that may hold valuable clues to it's origin.

    Just sayin ....
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, they share the same trees, but they don't share the same culture or have had the same colonial influence.

    And then there are regional differences. For instance, Bali and Madura are both small (groups of) islands in Indonesia, even neighbours, but their furniture styles are recognizably different.
     
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  5. dialanche

    dialanche New Member

    Can you point me to some examples I can research myself?
     
  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    what era?
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    And where from?
    South and Southeast Asia is a huge part of the world, with over 2 billion people. India alone has a population of 1 1/2 billion.
    Just imagine how many different styles there are in the entire South and Southeast Asian region.
     
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  8. dialanche

    dialanche New Member

    Then 2nd half of 20th century, India, Vietnam and Indonesia.
     
  9. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    When I research, I see what in-depth books are out there, and what I can pull from my library or inter-library loan. You might even ask your local librarian directly to help with your research hunt. They're a valuable resource if you have one, and usually happy to do a deep dive.
     
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  10. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Short of spending lots of time and experience.... I think you were on the right track with this info:

    Saw marks, including whether hand or mechanical (and if so, which type), finish, hardware, design motifs etc...

    If you're looking for a nugget of authentic info or two to use in your writing, you might do better starting with a specific time place and style and then researching what are the defining characteristics of that specific type. Then you can 'reverse engineer' those details into your writing.
     
  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Now there's a super power!
     
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  12. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Asian furniture covers an enormous spectrum.

    Eras, woods, carving styles, decoration styles, shape, construction techniques, etc. You'd have to absorb a lot of information. Even within different Chinese cultural groups, for example, there's differences in furniture-styles.
     
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  13. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    "More accurate than an auctioneer! More knowledgeable than a lifetime collector! Written more on the subject than a professional dealer! It's Captain Whatsit!? Able to strike awe and wonder into the eyes of curious and confused collectors the world over!!"
     
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    So.... just 2 billion people and only a few hundred different cultures. That's all right then.;) How many decades have you got?:angelic:
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That is a much more realistic approach.
     
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  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!


    identification of imported furniture at a glance........

    to us now.... a super power , taking years of study and an eye for what is seen...

    but....
    to go at this from a different angle.....

    a science fiction writer could allow for an AI enhanced life form to have this ability by calling on terabytes of data stored in it's memory.....

    That ' Door ' , can be opened..... easily !!!!

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  18. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    a science fiction writer could allow for an AI enhanced life form to have this ability by calling on terabytes of data stored......


    .... on antiquers!
     
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  19. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Maybe you've already tried Google searches, but if not, you could try searching something like "characteristics of modern india furniture", which included this website:
    https://www.houseofjaipur.co/post/a...x5eJ_OS12G78Sz9peo_VCBDOG74kr0z7nTjh4NmnzJBTo

    Or search Google images for "traditional indonesian [vietnamese] furniture."

    The more you search/read online and look at photo examples, you might be able to come up with some information and key words you can use for your sci-fi book. But I suspect there are so many variables and similarities, that it might be next to impossible for anyone to look at a piece of furniture and say for certain that it's a "1960's Burma" cabinet or chair (for example).

    Sorry, this probably isn't helpful.
     
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    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

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