Featured Pine needle bottle

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by Potteryplease, Sep 14, 2024.

  1. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Found this today. I have no evidence that it's tribal, but it could be. I can't find anything online like it.

    The bottle: It's clear glass, 11.5" / 29cm tall, and flares slightly inward halfway down the straight sides. It has a seam, so was not hand made. The mouth has intermittent straight threads for the (missing) cap (ie, the threads are not angled down for tightening). Perhaps this can help date the bottle itself.

    The weaving: pine needles, with some sort of glue or shellac on them to make them hard and durable. There is a small amount of 'play' between the basket / weaving and the bottle itself, suggesting it has expanded over time. Wear on the bottom is less than I might otherwise expect, since it seems older. There's darkened dust on the top portion of the weaving.

    Any help identifying where or when this might have come from will be much appreciated!

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    can't say I know...... but as the saying goes.... " you can't put old weaving , over a new bottle " !

    and that's as nice a pine needle weave....as I've ever seen !
     
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  3. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Wow--- I love hearin' that! Thank you.
     
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  4. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    It is nicely done. I've seen a lot of basket-covered bottles, of various origins, but never one covered with pine-needles.
     
  5. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    I have seen shellac coatings on Teneriffe style pine needle baskets, and I suspect it has been used since the 19th century. But I have not seen coiled pine needles done over a bottle before. It is particularly nice how the weaver has aligned the fascicles/caps of the needles to form the swirling vertical lines. More often the fascicles are removed for a smoother surface, as was done on the bottom of the bottle.
     
  6. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    And then there's this one:

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  7. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Add it to your collection!
     
  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  9. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    I found one very similar to OP's, with the ends of the pine-needle bundles used as a decorative element, in the recent Mroczek Brothers auction, 3pc Northwest Coast Baskets and Boxes | MBA Seattle Auction (mbaauction.com)
    It is listed as a "cedar bough covered basket by Hazel Pete (Chehalis)," though it is clearly pine-needles. The lot, with two other items, sold for $375.

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  10. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Nice find! Thank you. My search continues.

    I emailed pics of my bottle to Cisco's and they graciously emailed back. They said they didn't recognize it as any specific tradition (or person), and they weren't interested, but recommended another auction house who might be.

    For now, I'm gonna keep it on a shelf.
     
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