Featured 1860s plate?

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  1. Exracer

    Exracer New Member

    20240901_092807.jpg 20240901_092829.jpg Came from my Grandmother. Not sure what country. Any ideas?
     
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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Quick and dirty internet research identifies the language as Russian and provides a (loose) translation.

    Debora

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  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

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  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    And, another with the same image on offer from Russia.

    Debora

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  5. Joe in PA

    Joe in PA Well-Known Member

    And it seems 8000 rubles is $91.43 US dollars. Boy, a ruble just doesn't go as far as it used to :)
     
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  6. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I was just saying that at the grocery store this morning.

    Debora
     
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  7. Marote

    Marote Well-Known Member

    Без соли, без хлеба — худая беседа
    Without salt, without bread — bad conversation
     
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  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    That image appears to be used often on Russian bread plates. Curious as to source.

    Debora

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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Ah... Two types of windmills in Russia. The plate features the post-based kind which are called stolbovka. The internet says they're more common in the north. There's also an example in the Russian settlement of Fort Ross, California which was established in 1812.

    Debora

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  10. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Antiquers had a different item with the same phrase before, back in 2018:
    https://www.antiquers.com/threads/r...salt-cellar-with-text-anyone-translate.29128/

    @Caribou's House gave a couple of meanings to the strict translation:
    "Bez soli i khleba khudaya beseda"
    "Talking is bad without bread and salt, or no agreement can be reached without the crucial ingredients."

    So, very similar to what has been said here. Proverbs are a bit more difficult to smoothly translate between one language and another.
     
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