Featured Salt Cellars

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Monica Becker, Jul 23, 2024.

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Can anyone date these?

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  1. Monica Becker

    Monica Becker New Member

    Please help, any info would be appreciated. Heavily tarnished salt cellars with spoons. I’m not sure if they are even silver, they didn’t clean easily with very good with a cleaner. Only mark I can find is the small square symbol that’s hard to see. It looks like a head or crown duty stamp. I could try to take a better picture.
     

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  2. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Can we get a pic of the bottom of the bowl ?
     
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  3. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

  4. Monica Becker

    Monica Becker New Member

    Posted… it’s a glass dish.
     

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  5. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Have they got glass liners because salt is one of the few substances that can corrode silver including the spoons.
    Maybe mustard pots ?
     
  6. Monica Becker

    Monica Becker New Member

    Yes they have a small glass dish.
     
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  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Hi and Welcome @Monica Becker! I'm assuming you saw the 3 rows of small lettering under the rim of the 'cellar'? I removed any color from the image to help it stand out a bit.....although I'm unable to read any of it.....just pick out a letter or two!!

    2-3 marks.jpg
     
  8. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    The color of your cellars made me think of a necklace that my mother had made.... part of it was gold, but the hangar that was attached was made of Oxidized Silver.... I don't know if that's a possibility or not for your pieces though!! If someone were to try to polish the oxidized silver, COULD it even be polished off????? Just a thought that could that be what yours are.......................? And after Googling it, I found..............hope that helps!!

    Oxidized Silver- 2024-07-23.jpg
     
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  9. Monica Becker

    Monica Becker New Member

    Wow, that’s crazy! Those numbers are so small! Thanks. Maybe a W8639??? The bottom numbers maybe 7F
     
  10. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    @Monica Becker, Sorry about the triple post, but I just enlarged that square mark one of your salts......IS it ACTUALLY what LOOKS LIKE..... A ROOSTER (or chicken)????? OR is my AI program messing with me!!!!??

    EnhancedMark on Salt c-1-topaz-denoise-sharpen-enhance-2x.jpg
     
  11. Monica Becker

    Monica Becker New Member

    Thanks, I was thinking maybe there is some gold. Not sure though. Il
     
  12. Matahari

    Matahari Well-Known Member

    Cheryl posted silvermarks above

    https://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_marks.html

    the cockerel is also french

    check out saliere or saleron on google

    they appear to be gold lined ?


    can't remember what VERMEIL is in english
    (I think there is a technical word for gold lined )
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    gold washed, gold guilt, gold plated,
    depends the process.....
     
  14. Matahari

    Matahari Well-Known Member

    laugh.gif thank you, google isn't always my friend



    ver.png
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is the same, vermeil.;)
    Vermeil is specifically gold bonded with silver, nowadays through electrolysis - electroplating.:)
     
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  16. Matahari

    Matahari Well-Known Member

    your last two photos are thumbnails, could you enlarge to "full image " please :)

    sal.png


    no need ;)
     
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  17. Matahari

    Matahari Well-Known Member

    Looks like we've lost Monica Becker keyboard.gif
     
  18. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    The marks are the 1st standard (.950) Minerva-head in an octagonal cartouche, can even see the '1' at top right - an idea of dating might be possible with ID of maker's marks, would guess late 19th-early 20th century...

    Here is one of similar form from my collection:

    swan-salt-french-tirbour-950-composite.jpg

    ~Cheryl
     
  19. Monica Becker

    Monica Becker New Member

    Hi nope I’m still here… I enlarged the stamp too and can see the image of a head more clearly now. Tilt it , the profile of the face is to the right. I tried searching to find who it was but had no luck.
     

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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is the Minerva mark, for .950 silver as Cheryl said. So the head is of the Goddess Minerva.
     
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