Featured c.1884 Birmingham sterling silver scent bottle

Discussion in 'Silver' started by bercrystal, Jun 22, 2024.

  1. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    I got this as part of a lot of bottles at a local auction a couple of months back.

    I was shocked when I saw the marks because I would have thought this auction house would have caught them & put it with another lot that contained about 15 assorted glass lay-down scent bottles many of which had sterling lids. :oops::smuggrin::smuggrin:

    It is 3" long & weighs 12 grams.

    It was made by David & Lionel Spiers. They were located on Hylton Street in Birmingham England. The maker's mark was poorly struck & is hard to read even in person, but thanks to https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/index.htm I was able to decipher it. This site has the ability to use partial marks & is very easy to use. :happy::happy:

    The mark was used from 1882 to 1879 but the lower case hallmark dates it to 1884.

    It is actually marked on the cap & both sides of the bottle.

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  2. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    What a lovely little thing!!
     
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  3. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    Oh my, nice find!!!
     
  4. pearlsnblume

    pearlsnblume Well-Known Member

  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  6. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    THAT is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!​
     
  7. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Ooh, superb! Was it in this shining state? They must have been in a hurry when making the lots:bucktooth::woot:
     
  8. silvermakersmarks

    silvermakersmarks Well-Known Member

    Thanks, bercrystal, for the mention of my site. The dates which I quote there are confirmed dates for which I have seen the relevant mark rather than absolute working or in-use dates. For the Spiers mark I actually have 1882 to 1894 as my seen-on dates with 1879 being the date of registration.
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Oh, Peggy, that is such a delicate beauty, gorgeous! The shape caught my eye first, but then I saw the detail in those bands, wow!
     
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  10. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    No, it was quite tarnished. The makers mark (such as it is) & the hallmarks had some real build-up in them. I had to use a Q-tip to clean out the build-up before I could identify them correctly. In fact, I didn't even see the maker's mark until someone pointed it out to me but it took multiple cleanings & close-up photo till I could make it out.

    I didn't even look at it when I was previewing because I assumed it was silverplate. This auction house requires one of their employees to open the cases & hand the items to you. So the first time I handled it was when I was unpacking my box of bottles because they wrapped & packed up the bottles.

    I could see that there were marks but it wasn't until I got it cleaned up that I saw the anchor mark & realized it was actually sterling. :D:D
     
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  11. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    It is an absolutely fabulous site!! :happy::happy:

    It was recommended by someone here on the forum & I bookmarked it in my favorites.

    I really do not think I would have ever ID'd the mark without the help of your site & its wild card option. As you can see the "D&" are totally obscured so the odds of me finding it on my own was unlikely.
     
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  12. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Excellent cleaning job! It is glorious!!!
     
  13. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    It does have quite a lot going for it in those 3 inches!! :happy::happy::kiss:
     
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  14. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    great score Peggy, it is beautiful:)
    what is the 'wild card' option?
     
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  15. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    I actually stumbled on it myself. ;):)

    Click on "quick maker's marks".

    I entered Birmingham (anchor mark) in the "assay town".

    I entered 1884 (k mark) in the "date".

    As far as the "mark initials" the only thing I could make out was an "L" & an "S" but I knew there was more preceding the "L". However, the maker's marks are listed by the first letters in the mark so I was going to have to go letter by letter. I was about to give up, list it using the information I had & hope for the best.

    I decided to see what the quick maker's mark was about & it took me a few tries but when I entered "%ls" with the above information the 3 listings for David & Lionel Spiers came up immediately. :D:D:D

    It is like when eBay would let you search with an "*" if you could not make out the whole mark. i.e. temp* for temp-tations dishes so you would get all of the results for listings that included the "-" or left it out.
     
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  16. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    thanks Peggy:) I've never noticed that option before, I have a couple of pieces that I can't figure out so will give it a try:)
     
  17. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    Let me know how it works out for you. :happy::happy:
     
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  18. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    lol, I will once I find them, they aren't where I thought I had put them:)
     
  19. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    It is amazing how these things can squirm their way around & relocate themselves just to make us look bad. ;):rolleyes::p :hilarious::hilarious:

    Have you tried looking where you finally found the lid to the sugar bowl recently? ;):playful::playful: :kiss::kiss::kiss:
     
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