Featured Guan Ware Song Dynasty bowl?

My phone hates yellows and oranges. I can’t capture either of those colors even close to what they look like in person. Not to save my life I can’t. Then again I only use the default settings. If my life depended on it I guess I’d learn to play with it successfully.

 

Glad it shows some age in person. Even if in near perfect condition I’d expect some small signs of age. I do know ceramics can be tricky when in perfect condition, particularly Song stuff for whatever reason.

I’ll be interested to hear what Mr. Combs has to say!

I don’t know enough to have my opinion matter on its age. I mean I do compared to someone that has never thought twice about Chinese ceramics but not compared to some here.

I knew that stickers were being faked but initially I never expected legitimate auctions houses with good reputations to be selling outright Chinese fakes. So when I first saw old looking stickers on nice Chinese things at good auction houses I thought they maybe held some water. Turns out a lot places are pushing this stuff through and you have to be way more careful than I first thought. Good that you know the climate and won’t be taken by the fraudulent stickers. Good auction houses marketing fakes is bad enough but the fake stickers thing is really low IMO.

 

It is a beautiful piece Marco

He is able to date this this from photos? I would think if something has the potential to be worth a high amount, you would need someone to have it in hand to do this, but maybe not?

 

Absolutely agree and well aware of the onslaught of high paid professionals doing their due diligence. The chance of something fallen through the crackel(punn intended) are far and few if at all. But it does happen. I did pay up more than I normally would. But the risk outweighed the downside. My purchases are generally made for resale. Only a few I make are purchases intended to keep forever and a day. They generally are those that have some level of personal importance.

In this case the quality, style and uniqueness is there and I felt it worth the gamble. Yes, I truly want this to be authentic, and absolutely hope it to be, yet if it is a copy of 100,200 or 300+ years old(whatever) I will still be ahead of the game. This is such a unique piece. Only if it were a modern day knockoff could it hurt(I’d survive).

However should I have floundered in my judgement I feel the cost can be at best recoup+ as in evident within this thread the piece is aesthetically desirable. IMO, one must take the risk.

Sincerely, thank you for your input *thumbs-up*

 

I most certainly will post his response here. *thumbs-up*

 

He is exceptional, if you are not aware YouTube some of his videos “Peter Combs”.
That said, of course it is alway best for an expert to have in hand, but he is good.

Nice to see you cxgirl, been a while.

 

Nice to see you too Marco glad to see you are still buying to resell I've never heard of him before, will check him out on YouTube

I agree with this 100%, the gamble is what makes this fun (and sometimes nerve racking). I don't know Chinese ceramics at all but you have the eye for quality and this is a beautiful example. Thank-you for sharing this, you will do well with it

 

Sent an email to the link in my OP, and bidamount(Peter Combs) last Wednesday and now find myself checking for a reply every couple of hours. The suspense is getting the better part of me. In the past Combs usually got back in 48-72hrs. So either they are on vacation, very backed up or(hopefully) checking and double checking for accuracy.

indeed I am over anxious for good news but can accept whatever comes my way.

 

Fingers crossed for you!

 

Ditto!

 

I believe that Asia week starts in NYC this week. He’s likely had his hands full producing content around all the upcoming auctions. I’ve noticed a couple new videos posted fairly recently. It’s like Christmas for Asian art dealers this week. Just speculation, but probably unfortunate timing for you. Hope you hear back soon!

 

Well to update, my review, it did come back negative. Reason for the extended delay was he is recovering from nerve damage in his neck following a stent implant. *Wishing a speedy recovery*

His reasons seemed a bit lackluster as it was completely about an item he was showing me that was currently up for sale, than about my item. He pointed out in the video what he saw wrong with the online item and that the one online was only listed as “Chinese Celadon Ice Crackle Glazed Ceramic” not antique. My piece was listed “Fine Chinese Longquan Celadon Ceramic”. Which to me gives the auctionhouse a bit more responsibility(a bit). He stated the obvious as was also mentioned by @J Dagger, that the odds of an auction house like Sotheby’s having two of these come up for sale within a couple of years was “zero”. Additionally the online item had two auction house fake stickers of which one of the houses didn’t exist. Although There is a sticker on mine it does not claim such. These three reasons seemed to be his valuation focal point. We already knew this.

His only mention about my actual bowl was that it was handmade and attractive. Yeah

I guess while I have to respect his knowledge(and I do) I would have prefer he talked about my submission item and what is good or bad about its features, rather then go to another item for sale and point out what he liked or didn’t like about that piece(which is not what I paid for). I sent all the photo’s in. Phfff!

All’s good

 

Which it is, but...

Exactly!

 

Sorry your evaluation did not come back positive. I have found over the years that it is very hard to get people to focus on what you want them to. This is particularly true with people of authority and/or expertise. I guess they are used to being the focus and expounding as they want. It can really be quite irritating at times.

 

I'll be disappointed myself about paying information & talk more about other items. Lime/jade Green Longquan vase with dragon ears i received by mistake from a seller, of I returned it back. Before returning it I did research compared photos no lie the foot rim looks just as the real ones, dark dressing to base silky body. Not my favorite to collect only way to compare these type is having a real one with yours in person or very very detailed 4k pictures online.... many collectors love this type of period also comes with many fakes that is very tough. Your idk looks nice real or fake idk, can't judge stickers to.

https://mt.sohu.com/20170401/n486053691.shtml

https://objetsdevertu.com/products/small-celadon-dish-song

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1260955850...czjjwLxRSu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

Thanks @verybrad, my real chances of it being authentic is like 1in5,000,000 but dag-nab-it, people do win the lottery don’t they.

Still, very happy w/purchase.

 

Wish you had gotten a stamp of approval! Maybe the things he was saying about the other piece also hold true for yours for the most part and that was his angle? I think he likes to let people down easy. No one wants to hear their investment get bashed or to feel stupid. By saying “negative” things about another piece that could also be true of yours it’s like a place holder that you don’t get as sensitive about since he’s not directly bashing your piece. By you/your I just mean any submitter to his service in general, not you specifically. It’s a technique I sometimes use when trying to give constructive criticism. I’ll make statements about a neutral place holder that could also hold true for the person I’m talking to and and maybe they’ll absorb it whilst not being personally insulted. Hopefully anyway. Also the old adage of “if you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything at all” could come into play. “It’s a good looking modern thing” might be as much as he could come up with. It would be nice if someone could point to each specific thing that points to an object being a fake/repro. Sometimes it’s hard to articulate though. That could be another issue. It’s easy to say oh, the foot rim on this is wrong, the color is slightly wrong, the firing technique is wrong…When modern forgeries are getting just about everything right though it is harder to articulate maybe. It’s just a matter of “I’ve seen 10,000 real ones, and I’ve seen 20,000 fake ones and after that many I can just tell, but it’s hard to explain” maybe?

I also think his mind goes 100mph and tends to meander a little bit. His brain is going faster than his mouth sometimes it seems. Maybe being a little more concise would be appreciated by the folks submitting requests but I think you’ve got to take the good with the bad so to speak in this case. He seems to be a true authority and a meandering expert $10-$15 appraisal from the comfort of home is much better than none at all! I’m sure you’d agree there. Maybe the next one will be a home run!

 

I get what you’re saying and respect his knowledge. That said my skin is tough and when I posted the bowl on here, sure I was giddy about buying a $1.00 scratch off lottery ticket, but was always aware of my odds of winning. The fee I chose to pay for a review is outrageously reasonable to say the least. My slight disappointment is that I can see differences in the online item he choose to use and mine. So I will not learn from this outcome. Please tell me what’s wrong with the foot, what is it about the color, is the glaze copied very good or is it this or that. We learn from good and bad inputs. For example: If you watch a weekly video of him talking about an authentic piece in an online auction, will your next purchase be an authentic piece? Or if you watch him talk about a fake piece online, will you never buy a similar fake? This is where I am now. But if you bought an antique meiping vase and had it in hand, touch feel see clearly and he told you what a beautiful piece and here’s why, or sorry, and here is why, the fee you paid became invaluable for the information you gain. But truth be told he does deal with every type of customer and I am 150% positive he has dealt with argumentive(?) people which he doesn’t deserve.

all in all I am cool with the outcome and appreciate you and everyone's input here. Thank you. I still love the piece and will get back to scratching off lottery ticket.

 

very true *thumbs up*

‘thanks for the links. I long read but interesting. New term “Black Tire Celadon”.