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  1. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    When I sold in Chicago, we regulaly rented pieces for productions. I know one of my paintings made it to a movie but I do not know which movie.

    A friend of mine's apartment in Chicago was used for the filming of the movie, Ali. He had it decorated in vintage MCM and it was used to portray a high end period hotel room. They had to cover the cook-top for the filming and ended up breaking it.

    When I was in college, we went to the theatre to see Bowie's, Man who Fell to Earth. In one scene, they focus on and zoom into a cheap print hanging on the wall. It just so happened that we had that same print in the living room back at our house. We were imbibing substances that night and it caught us off-guard when it was featured so prominently.
     
  2. Mike Mac Dnald

    Mike Mac Dnald Active Member

    We had sold a funeral wreath to a props department. Wife asked the buyer if it was for a TV show. The wreath was for an Apple TV show called, "Severance" with Christopher Walken. The wreath got a lot of air time in episode 3 2022 wreath2.jpg wreath1.jpg
     
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  3. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Vancouver, BC is known as Hollywood North. Vancouver often stands in for Seattle/PNW. Some Westerns, like Unforgotten are filmed in Alberta. Toronto stands in for various eastern US cities. However, we're getting some good shows that are actually based in and about the real cities: Family Law (Vancouver) and Transplant (Toronto). And of course, Vancouver Island, where I live, is home to many Hallmark romance movies. ;)
     
  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I love Transplant!
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    X-Files !!!
     
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  6. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    :facepalm: I hope they replaced it properly! You can make really good money renting property but I don't think I would do it with my primary home. Productions really are bulls in a china shop. Imagine a 75 person party with heavy equipment, hot lights, long poles... And then they all eat where they're not supposed to, sit/lean on things they shouldn't with all their metal tools on their belts, change all your lightbulbs, and definitely use your toilets instead of their own.... :hilarious: I'm always respectful, but I've seen things.... :bag:

    Productions loooove a Vancouver forest! Every historical event, every dystopian catastrophe, horror, or alien planet....look it's Vancouver's trees. :joyful:
     
  7. Tiquer

    Tiquer Well-Known Member

    Both wow, and, yikes!
     
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  8. Tiquer

    Tiquer Well-Known Member

    It's funny how many "sheeple" just take what's being shown at face value.
     
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  9. Tiquer

    Tiquer Well-Known Member

    That is really cool! I could never do it, though, unless I had 2 of each item :)
     
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  10. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    I have bins for vintage items specifically for film use that are not worth much and I would part with otherwise.

    I'm also the person on set responsible for keeping these items, handing them to actors, and taking them back...so I'm there to babysit. ;) That said, I would never take something I loved that I knew I couldn't replace. I even have an entirely different set of clothing and kit only for work, with things I don't mind getting destroyed. :hilarious:
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    do u think the armorer on alec baldwins western movie got a fair shake ?
     
  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I don't understand why there was live ammunition anywhere near the set.
     
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  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I thought I had heard that some of the staff were shooting live rounds , during their off hours...?????

    but ya...there should not have been a live round within 100 miles of that set !!
     
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    and it's not like Alec had never held a gun on a movie set before ....
     
  15. Tiquer

    Tiquer Well-Known Member

    I would love to hear about any sci-fi or horror movie props you might be willing to sell!
     
  16. Tiquer

    Tiquer Well-Known Member

    When you guys solve that mystery, I'd love to know how Brandon Lee, son of Bruce, could die from a prop round...
     
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  17. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    More than fair. 18 months and 5k fine (max possible) is nothing for the extreme negligence she displayed.

    I think the AD, who got a deal from the DA for no charges, should have been charged as well. An AD is the top, and final, safety person on set and he did NOT do the job he was supposed to do.

    I do not think Alec should be charged as an actor handling the gun. He did absolutely nothing wrong there. They COULD charge him for negligence as a producer IF they can show that safety concerns were brought to him and were part of his producing job. However, I'm willing to bet his producer credit is for investment money/creative decisions and not the type that runs the day-to-day.

    There should never, ever, EVER be live ammo on set or near it. I've seen armorers tear ass into people who've brought personal weapons anywhere near a production (it happens in states where personal carry is big :rolleyes:) and threaten to shut the show down immediately until things are removed. Legit armorers have major liability insurance.

    I believe it was suggested the crew was doing target practice? I think that was in relation to making props. If you have a scene with items that have bullet holes in them (ie a shoot out, target practice), then you have to make those. The proper way to do this is to buy/rent them, fabricate them off set with separate gear that never comes to set, or hand them to sfx who do the same. It looks like here they decided to cut corners and fabricate on-set. But that's my assumption from various things I've heard. It could also just be as stupid as it sounds.

    Most people don't know what gun procedure is on sets and do not realize we've had a very tight, specific protocol and prop procurement method since before Brandon Lee, with more things added after.

    Firstly, every single gun goes through this process. Even rubber. Even toy. Even guns with solid barrels and no ability to fire. Because if it looks like a gun, it is treated as such.

    Armorers have certifications, huge liability insurance, and even ATF oversight if they have certain military grade weapons. Every armorer I know is former military, cop, or otherwise expert. The rust armorer was 24, a daughter of a known armorer, and had only done one gig before this in which a gun was fired right next to the actor's head AND she did an interview saying she didn't think she was ready for the job.

    Guns and ammo are kept locked up or with an armorer/prop person at all times.

    When a weapon is needed, that has the ability to fire/flash, the armorer must handle it (non-firing can be brought by a regular prop person). They do all checks necessary that the weapon is in clean, good condition, with no obstructions. They check the dummy rounds individually. They count the dummy ammo brought to set, blanks fired, and they count shells retrieved to make sure everything is accounted for. A little different for black powder, which usually involves stunt people. They also instruct the actor on how to use the weapon prior to filming.

    They bring the gun to set, directly to the AD, and the armorer/prop person or AD announces a gun's arrival. The AD checks the weapon to make sure it is cleared of obstructions, that they understand what the gun is, how it operates, etc. They announce it is cold (no blanks) or hot (blanks) to the crew and invite ANYONE present to look at the gun. I literally mean anyone. Camera op, PA, everybody. They then present the weapon to the actor for the actor to see it is clear.

    In Rust, the AD saw the guns unattended (??!) on the prop cart, grabbed one, called it "cold" and handed it to Alec. That is something that should never happen. The AD should never grab a prop gun without the armorer.

    The actor does not HAVE to do a check. It is optional. Same as everyone else on crew. It is NOT OPTIONAL for the AD. AD is in charge of final safety, full stop. I see the DA or others report Alec should have checked but IT IS NOT HIS JOB. It is a courtesy check to make him comfortable with the weapon. Safety is not his job in this context. Actors should trust the AD and armorer to do their jobs.

    I've also seen people say he shouldn't have pointed the gun at anyone or pulled the trigger. Of course you should not point a gun at anyone when it is not called for, but absolutely actors DO point weapons at people and pull triggers while filming or rehearsing! Otherwise it wouldn't look right! As an actor I had to point a real gun 2 inches from an actor's face. That's normal, because the gun should be cleared. In Alec's case, he was instructed to do a pov shot, pointing his gun "down the barrel" of the camera lens. Directly at camera. It was requested of him and the gun was necessary to make sure the shot looked right at that range.

    Haha I have a whole bag of horror stuff off my last movie. I'm not looking to sell anything until I start running out of room lol. After all, I'm a fan of props myself... ;)

    Technically not a real round, but an improperly made dummy from the sfx team that still had a primer and lodged the bullet in the barrel. The team didn't clear the barrel, so the subsequent blank round provided the force to dislodge the dummy's stuck bullet. That is why we always clear the barrel in between. We also order blanks and dummies from a company that specializes in their manufacture. We still check each one too.
     
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  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Would you need to use the same gun that was going to be used as a prop?
     
  19. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Nope. Just same caliber/type of shot. You don't technically even have to use a gun, but obviously that's easiest.


    Disclaimer: I'm not an armorer or sfx, I've just worked closely with a lot of them. Post was already too long, so it's an overview lol. :bag: We're all just so angry this happened and the mis-information about it when we try so hard to keep everyone safe. That set was a horror show of safety issues, beyond the accidental shooting.
     
  20. Tiquer

    Tiquer Well-Known Member

    I don't have any of the items in this movie, but I love the decor, and timepieces that are shown in "The Time Machine". I was hoping to see a glimpse of my old Savonarola chair in there, but no luck :)
     
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