19th or early 20th century Victorian oil painting?!

Hi all,

New to this forum and long story short, inherited this painting from my late great aunty and trying to place the origin, I have attached a picture of the painting and the monogram which I just can’t find online, it may be an amateur artist, the canvas is Winsor and Newton and has to be pre 1938 due to the stamp of ‘Rathbone place’

any help would be massively appreciated

Thanks in advance

Steve

 

that mark looks familiar.....but I can't place it........

 

I'm puzzled buy that skirt length which would place it well out of the Victorian period. If I had to guess, I'd think 1950s but could be a tad earlier I suppose.

Hemlines didn't begin to rise until the 1920s but the silhouette was long and lean with a dropped waist.



They went down in the 1930s and didn't rise again until just before World War II but the silhouette was v-shaped, waisted but with a strong shoulder.



In the 1940s, they maintained the strong shoulder but went way up to accommodate the war's fabric restrictions. As soon as the war was over, shot way influenced by Christian Dior's New Look.



They remained long until the late 1950s when bodice's were waisted with a rounded, more natural fit. That's what I see in your painting. Of course, the female figure could be wearing traditional costume but it tends to maintain traditional lengths and resist fashion's changes to hemlines.



Certainly appears to be the work of an amateur painter but one with some artistic training.

Debora

 

The monogram reminds me of Albrecht Durer's. With her bonnet & apron, carrying a small basket, I don't think the lady is concerned with the current fashion in hem lengths, she's dressed to work. Perhaps she's there to gather winkles. Looks like amateur work to me. Any chance the artist was a forebear?

 

She could have her skirt hiked up, I suppose. She's barefoot after all.

Debora

 

Does look a bit like Düurer's monogram.

Debora

 

Reminds me of this print: The Girl from Jasmund


I know there's an associated story, but I can't find it. Jasmund is on Rugen island off the German Baltic coast.

Could be coincidental.

 

Looks like an AJ to me. I agree the painting looks to be done by an amateur painter.

 

Had to look that one up because I've never heard that term . Periwinkle (after looking it up), yes, just not the shortened version.

 

Hi guys,

Can I just say thank you very much for all the detailed reply’s especially Debora, it’s very much appreciated! I think I’ll come to the conclusion that it’s an amateur, my parents actually wanted to send it to the tip but managed to save it as someone very skilled has put a lot of time and effort into it so I’ll get it reframed and display it somewhere in the house

thanks again for all your input!

Steve

 

Here's is some information for the age of the board, scroll down to page 7 ...
https://www.npg.org.uk/assets/files/pdf/research/artists_materials_11_Winsor.pdf

 

The girl is wearing a regional costume. Folk dresses and skirts rarely follow fashionable skirt lengths, those few that do are usually at least a decade behind general fashion.

OPs painting could be situated on Rügen as well. There are variations on the costume, like these three fishermen's wives from Mönchgut on Rügen, published by Franz Lipperheide 1876-1887:


https://world4.eu/folk-dresses-rugen-germany/

Her skirt isn't as wide as most European folk costumes have, most are worn over several underskirts. That means it is probably a poor region or a poor period in history.

I swear I didn't do it.