Featured Very old 1700s cake stand platter

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  1. Kings peak

    Kings peak New Member

    Hello I'm new to this forum I definitely need some help identifying who made this crystal cake platter its in great condition its definitely very old i know that it was brought over from ireland i have had it in my possession for a long time. The stemmed cake platter was passed down to me through my Mother, from her Mother, from her Mother, etc... continuing back to the Mother (as a young woman) that was assigned to carry it on the ship from Ireland. This, I think, occurred in the 1700s and I would like to know what design is called any help whould be much appreciated it has no markings on it that I can see where and who it was made by. It is 9" across and 6" tall. I haven't cleaned it up very well, yet. 20240111_171956.jpg 20240111_172406.jpg 20240111_172813.jpg
     
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  2. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  5. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Let's be clear: they are rarely accurate, especially about old stuff.
     
  6. Kings peak

    Kings peak New Member

    We have a pic of my mom's great grandmother with this cake stand. She was born in 1879. She told my Mom this story before it was passed down to her. The photo was dated when she was about 25 or 30 years old.
     
  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    That ties in nicely with the manufacturing dates of this piece. Made by Campbell Jones & Co. from circa 1883 to 1910.

    Debora
     
  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    By the way, EAPG stands for Early American Pattern Glass or informally "pressed" glass. The edges will be soft to the touch rather than sharp.

    Debora
     
  9. TallCakes

    TallCakes Well-Known Member

  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    This is an impressive antique pedestal cake stand or salver first made by Campbell Jones & Company in 1883. It was made in the #83 Diamond Pattern. Alternative pattern names used were "Heavy Panel Finecut", "Squared Finecut". More than one company made this piece. Jones, Cavitt & Co. made it in the later 1880's using the same mold. Then U. S. Glass Co. in the 1890's when Cavitt joined their combine. Diamond Glass Co. made it in/about 1902 and Jefferson Glass Co. also. This piece was in a US Glass catalog into the early 1920's. There are no markings on the glass. The last photo shows the hot metal wedge used to attach the bottom and top parts together, which indicates this is an earlier piece.
     
  11. Kings peak

    Kings peak New Member

    Thank you for the information. I will research it from here with this information.
     
  12. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure there's much more to know. A very handsome piece and a lovely family heirloom. (By way, if you're curious about value, disregard the Ruby Lane seller's asking price. They're notoriously inflated on that site.)

    Debora
     
  13. Kings peak

    Kings peak New Member

    Thank you for the extensive information! It has really helped me understand further about my piece. It might be that my Great Grandmother or her Mother brought it over on a trip/ vacation back from Ireland. Who knows? I do have records of a few ship trips that my ancestors made. They are in my genealogical records.
     
  14. Kings peak

    Kings peak New Member

    Who would I go to to find out the value
     
  15. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    It's always helpful to check eBay Sold listings. There are two currently. One sold for $40 plus shipping and one for $29.95 plus shipping. That doesn't reflect on the quality and attractiveness of the piece; the collector market for EAPG is very soft.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=cake+stand+campbell+jones&LH_Complete=1

    By way, Campbell Jones & Company was based in Pittsburg, PA. Diamond Glass Co. was based in Montreal, Canada. An Ireland connection would seem unlikely.

    Debora
     
  16. Kings peak

    Kings peak New Member

    Thanks everyone for your help
     
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