Featured J. Singer Bronze Statue Sculpture

Discussion in 'Art' started by Jaime Riggs, Dec 12, 2023.

  1. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    my dad would blame dinner table farts.......on the poor cat !!!!:hilarious:
     
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  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Or any handy dog!
     
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  3. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Since we're geeking out a bit...

    After Macbeth kills the king, he comes back panicked at his deed and at the blood on his hands. Lady Macbeth says "A little water clears us of this deed" but he says, "Will all great Neptune's ocean wash this blood / Clean from my hand? No, this my hand will rather / The multitudinous seas incarnadine, / Making the green one red."

    Multitudinous AND incarnadine in the same line?? ... and, impossibly, both still in iambic pentameter blank verse? Well, there's only one writer who can do that.

    Let's go, Shakespeare. Let's go.
     
  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    ^5 Avon!
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Most of these "Venus" figurines were discovered at a time when people still thought of such items in Graeco-Roman terms. The one in Dolní Věstonice was discovered and named in the 1920s if I remember correctly.
    The Graeco-Roman interpretation has long since been abandoned, and rightly so.

    The fact is, scholars don't know the cultures these figurines were made in or what they meant, and most scholars nowadays accept that. Consequently their 'purpose' is as yet unknown. All we know is that there must have been reasons to make them. Those reasons may differ from one culture to another.
    No one was "not talking about sex". Seeing nudity in a non-sexual way was only mentioned as one of several examples of how different people or cultures look at nudity.
    Just one example of many I could name: Western artists flocked to Bali in part because of the upper body nudity of Balinese women. To many of them that was tantalising, but to the Balinese such upper body nudity was normal, the best way to dress in the tropics. See, different perspectives, a sexual and a non-sexual one.
    Not that the Balinese are prudish about sex in the way I interpret it, on the contrary.
    The Balinese neutral view on nudity (or that of some other non-Western peoples) may seem prudish or old fashioned to your art world, but I don't see the need to judge them.

    What surprised me in this thread was that it was talked about in such a "giggling" way, as if to say "ooh naughty".
    I haven't seen that type of reaction overhere since the 60s, but I realise this is an international forum. Still, it is an antiques forum, and since many antiques are nudes or decorated with nudes, I thought Jaime's post normal.

    In the art world you know, considering nudity as normal may be regarded as "prudish and old fashioned", but the art world I was always part of, that giggly reaction is considered "prudish and old fashioned".
    But again, a different culture.
    Maybe I should explain, I live in the Netherlands, a country that is considered far more free when it comes to nudity than the country you are from. Some of the galleries I worked for overhere exhibited art that was far more explicit than this little beauty.

    Some foreigners who come here regard the Dutch freedom as sexual, and think they can just grab girls. They don't understand it and can't appreciate the beauty of Dutch freedom. Their inability to appreciate the beauty of it in a more neutral way is very different from the way that you don't understand our way of regarding nudity as natural. I would much rather have your way than theirs, obviously.

    Having said that about the different views in our art world and yours, when I helped set up an art gallery in NY in 1982, I didn't meet any artists that were "prudish" (in the Dutch definition) about nudity.
    But times change, and I accept that. Or maybe you are from a different part of the country.
    Absolutely. Jaime is happy to have such a lovely sculpture, I am happy to enjoy its beauty without any socio-cultural restrictions, and you are happy to giggle about it. All of us happy, what more can you want.:)
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    During the past few weeks I could have filled your house with joy.
    As long as no one lit a match.:oops:
     
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  7. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member


    Hm perhaps we are having a misunderstanding.

    No one here in the art world is worried about nudity or thinks it's unnatural. I've made nudes much MUCH more racy than this one and presented publicly, or sold to clients. What I'm saying is we also recognize sex and human experience in art. Which is what I see in this thread. I didn't see anyone I thought was "giggling" because they hadn't seen a nude before, but maybe I missed that or had a different interpretation.
     
  8. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    That is NOT how I would describe it!! :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: What are you EATING over there?? :nailbiting:

    But I would take it to visit with some lovely Antiquers in person. :shame:
     
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  9. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :joyful:
    I have divericulitis, IBS, and the occasional flare-up of colitis ulcerosa, as well as salicylate intolerance (which presents itself as a bad case of food poisoning). Oh, and I can't digest meat.
    As far as food goes I stick to the FODMAP diet (for IBS) and a low salicylate and no meat diet, which means I don't eat much of anything.:( But I have no idea what my intestines get up to sometimes.:rolleyes:
     
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  11. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is, thank you Pottery.:)
     
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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Or as I put it, if it's not going sideways, it's not going [anywhere].
     
  13. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Uuuuugh I'm sorry. My husband has a delightful constellation of obnoxious medical issues and he had to do fodmap for some time this year. Luckily, I was working and they feed me, so I didn't have to bother him or tempt him if I was craving something (he's the cook and I'm the baker).
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    They can come together in the most wonderful way, can't they. They always love company.
    I hope he is feeling better now.
     
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  15. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    I think he collects them like he does books. Always a new specialist to pick out. :nurse: I will not say he feels "better" but... different. Luckily they are not impactful in ways that are devastating.
     
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  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'm up to four auto-immunes now, so I kind of get it. Weird things a specialty.
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Once it starts, they flock together like vultures.;) There is a difference though, vultures are useful, auto-immune and other co-morbid conditions are not.:rolleyes:
     
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  18. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    They're useful if you're a doctor's office billing for medical coverage. Not good for much else though.
     
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