Featured Couple o Chinese plates

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Chinoiserie, Dec 8, 2023.

  1. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I went in a small independent charity shop today, fully expecting there to be nothing if interest in there, as there never is. I still go in regardless, just on the off chance I might grab something. I saw a floral Chinese plate and picked it up. Underneath was a lovely famille rose piece. Shake about the damage but you can hardly tell from the front. Not sure the floral one is anything much. The decor is quite crude. Early/mid 20th century probably. Quite made up with the other one though. :couchpotato:

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  2. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    It's on gotheborg, Guangdong Qi Chang.
     
  3. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Ah okay thanks. Not got that far yet. Just had my tea and pudding. Not sure I read too deep into marks on Chinese porcelain anymore. They always seem to be a tribute to another age.
     
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  4. 15Stiftgasse

    15Stiftgasse Well-Known Member

    The Mille-fleurs plate (with the apocryphal four character mark) is most probably, as you said, from the 20th century.
    The lower plate, in my opinion, probably dates from the first half of the 19th century.
     
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  5. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    That early? Okay thanks
     
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  6. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    I’ve got a19th century vase that looks very much like your second plate.
     
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  7. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I struggle to date anything pre 1900. It all looks quite similar to me. Guess you need much more exposure to items to fathom it.
     
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  8. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    I posted my vase here!
     
  9. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Sorry I've not seen it. :/
     
  10. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    It was quite a long time ago way before you joined us.
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  11. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Nice vase. Looks quite different in style to mine though.the characters are quite different and mine seems to have a lot more floral decorations mixed in too. I was originally thinking mine was late 19th century but I usually plum for that period to err on the side of caution. But it is hard to tell especially with Chinese as they tend to have recurring themes and imitation through the ages, so i really dont have a clue other than it is pre 1900. Guess I should read up on it and educate myself really. I am thinking the type of porcelain is a good indicator of age...
     
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  12. gckimm

    gckimm Active Member

    Hi:

    As was said previously, the top plate is a modern version of the traditional "thousand flower" design. The four characters say "Made in a porcelain factory in Guangdong (Province)."

    The second plate is lovely and well-made; you can see all of the work that went into the decoration on the edges. To me, the effort of the artist is an indication of the quality of the piece. I would also say 19th century but I can't be more specific.

    Greg
     
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  13. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    Good second plate. I think mid 19th. First is 20th c but still an attractive plate.
     
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  14. 15Stiftgasse

    15Stiftgasse Well-Known Member

    PS. Correction - the four character mark is not apocryphal as it refers to where the plate was produced - which is probably correct. Sorry !
     
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  15. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I forgive you. :cool:
     
  16. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    That second plate is a winner, damaged or not!
     
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  17. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Yes I'm sure it's worth a few bob more than I paid for it (3 pound). I am very tempted to keep it though as I love famille rose. Its currently on my chest of drawers one plate stand in the bedroom.
     
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  18. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    If I found it, I'd keep it -- at least for a while. The repair could be cleaned up a bit, but every piece has a history...
     
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