Thread for determining "Listed Artist" status

Discussion in 'Art' started by AntiqueBytes, Nov 27, 2023.

  1. AntiqueBytes

    AntiqueBytes Well-Known Member

    I thought it would be fun to have a thread to see which artists in our collection are properly considered "listed". I understand that to mean artists who have several auction records available.

    It could be a hoot, and it could be informative.

    The first one I am checking is Isa Barnett. There are a bunch of bios of him online. I found this print of his that seems to be a copy of a Da Vinci drawing.

    His Suffragettes realized 431% over the estimate.


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  2. AntiqueBytes

    AntiqueBytes Well-Known Member

    I don't see any limited edition information. The signature is cut off at the bottom, so maybe if I take the frame off something might be seen. The back text doesn't mention it being a limited edition.
     
  3. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Barnett seems to have worked mainly as a commercial illustrator, not a fine artist so not sure the term "listed" would apply to him. (Certainly your work is an example of a commercial work. From text, appears to have been a trade giveaway from the late 1960s/early 1970s when KAPTON was invented and launched.)

    Debora
     
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  4. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    My understanding is that the artist needs to have had more than 1 recorded auction result to be considered listed. It is just a way of determining potential future auction results. Isa Barnett has had a few recorded results. I personally had always considered an artist as listed if they were documented in the reference guides used pre-internet (who’s who, Davenports etc.).
     
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  5. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    We could all be listed artists by that criteria. I think mentioned in reference guides a bit more rigorous.

    Debora
     
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  6. AntiqueBytes

    AntiqueBytes Well-Known Member

  7. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    It "looks" like the bottom may have been trimmed, where copyright info 'may' have been???? Compared to the other borders...........
     
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  8. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    I’m thinking it was hinged at top and the adhesive dried, causing the picture to detach and slide down. I have seen this happen lots of times.
     
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  9. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    Davenport's was always the go-to bible as to whether or not an artist is listed. It combines auction records and artist scholarly references such as Who's Who. I am not familiar with Gordon's. Benezit was always the primary reference for European artists. I am not sure that any of these are still published in book form. When I first started buying art seriously in the late 80s, I bit the bullet and bought Davenport's. Never regretted it and still use my old copy in conjunction with on-line resources.

    Today, the matter of whether or not an artist is listed is a little less clear. Mere mention on-line will sometimes trigger a seller to say that a work they have is by a listed artist. My criteria would be a little more rigorous. Multiple auction records reported by serious sources is a good one. Some on-line resources are better than others. Artprice.com seems to be one of the most comprehensive. Even so, I often find it incomplete, with some artists listed elsewhere not included. One very popular site is more American-centric and subscriber driven than I am comfortable with. I have yet to subcribe to any of the on-line services and find that by using multiple sites and general research, I can generally glean the information I am seeking.
     
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