My new Bargain bought..!!! 18th..19th.. Copy..???

Here is a nice wee plate in mint condition that I bought last week end.
Size is 23,3cm Diam
A nice calle Jetee de Fleurs (Flowers drawing!!??) with few insects around....!!!
Once cleaned and inspected ,I thought it could be British..??
On the back are those 2 letters JR...?????
Was thinking VP .. Veuve Perrin but not...!!! I think it could be 19th cent Marseille ...???
Thanks for your usual help.
JJB

 

I'm afraid your photos are much too small.
And BTW, you don't have to use the polling feature when posting in this forum.
Also, you've posted in the "Art" section, when your inquiry is more fitting in the "Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain" section. Perhaps one of our moderators can move it... @Bookahtoo @daveydempsey
And a suggestion... put something in your title that indicates what the object actually is, so you get more looks by the most knowledgeable people in that subject area.

 

looks like JR

 

Ditto.

 

It does look like JR -- we seem to have double posts for this plate! But, there is a slim possibility that it's just R. The decoration is similar to Meissen and other factories in that are of Europe that decorated with sparce florals (compared to some British floral decoration) and a few insects. The "story" (and I have no reference for this!) is that the insects were used to cover up flaws from the firing. It is also possible that JR is the decorator rather than the factory. The colour palette suggests a later date than Veuve Perrin, but it's difficult to say whether late 19th or sometime in the 20th.

 

Could those photos help a little more...??? I dont think this plate is younger than 19th ceny...?? Much infos will help me a lot..!!! THANKS mERCI..!!!

 

Est-que vous habitez a France? I'm afraid I know very little about French pottery and porcelain and I've no further ideas. Is it possible that there is or was a pottery factory in the general area where you live? Sometimes items don't travel too far from where they are made. Bonne journee!

 

Thanks for your supposition and idea.. But I am originally from South west of France and Good Collectioneer of Samadet Faiences 18th.. It is by buying a pichet Samadet that I also bought this wee plate... Which is still Mysterious for me.... I think but not sure for End 18th Beg XIXth Cent Marseille.. And Would love that those 2 letters in the back are more VP than JR...But Not sure...!!!! Thanks anyway.

 

u say mint...
did that metal hanger leave any chips along with the residue?

 

These are from the book Marques et Signatures de la Faïence Française by Curtil. I don't know that they are much help.

 

Big thanks to you... Yes ,very interesting,I find quite bizarre that french "VIP Connoisseurs" on specialists Faiences Websites etc....Are so Silent ... And Violent;. Knowing I bought this wee one on EB for

 

Got this infos as well..... Looking at the bck with the oven marks "pernettes" Texture of the Faience.... Nobody could work as fine in the 20th.... So,for me ...Could it be a 19th Imitator copieur of VP veuve Perrin Finesse of "Jetee de Fleurs et Insectes " A la maniere de Veuve Perrin Marseille...!!!!! Signing JR as VP...?????

Will inform you 100% ...Not here at the moment....

 

Got as well those Signs from Marseille ceramics..... Maybe mine is a forgery....Hopefully not..!!!

 

You are 100% right ...And think my plate is a forgery... Immitation Copy of a 18th cent Marseille fron VEUVE PERRIN factory...And by having worked in Russia..in the 19th...Use to go Ismael Yovo flee Market every day off.... So many Copies of Western Faience and porcelaine... I think as nobody so far recognise...It is a good copy of marseille 18th Cent... That is my thinking... Bought it for 12 euros alltogether...Well, It pays the Guy who painted it with style and experience dextirity...Big wee job to copy an antiqhe one.

 

.... Sorry ,said 19th..Meaning 1990....Not so old yet..!!!

 

Thanks... Thought a little older...