Featured Help with hall mark on Gold Ring - egyptian

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  1. HallMark

    HallMark New Member

    Hello
    Can anyone confirm the hall mark of the ring please.
    Egypt 12 carat - date??
    Thanks in advance

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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Yes, Egyptian 12K mark.

    Egyptian Date Letters 4.jpeg
     
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  3. Aznathalie

    Aznathalie Well-Known Member

  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It's not a seagull, it's an ibis. OP's assay office could be Beni Suef.
     
  5. HallMark

    HallMark New Member

    Thank you Bronwen and Aznathalie. Your images really help.
    This is great.
    Would the date be 1946-47 or 1947-48 given the way the character is facing please.
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    to muddy to know for sure....... 47' should be good enuf..
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The 47-48 mark has a dot above it. I can't see that on your photo, but you have it in hand, could you check please?
    Ditto. So many sites make that mistake.
    Much worse, I've seen the lotus mark described as a broom.:rolleyes: Ah yes, the Egyptian broom mark.:pompous::hilarious:
     
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  8. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Looks like rose gold.
     
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  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is rose gold.
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    On slim evidence, I'm going to go with a date in the 1990s. May once have held a lab grown color change sapphire (frequently misidentified as alexandrite), which Egypt regularly set in rose gold. This mount is for an oval stone. Shapes other than round do not seem to have been on the market prior to the 1970s, when there was another wave of popularity for these flashy stones after their first appearance around 1940. The style may look antique, but Egyptian jewellers used the same designs for decades, at least.
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it almost looks like it may never have had a stone
     
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  12. HallMark

    HallMark New Member

    I could not see a dot.
    No there is no dot. Thanks So 46-47.
     
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  13. HallMark

    HallMark New Member

    Wow! Interesting. So the date mark may not be reliable. Thank you.
    I like the braided rope on the outside of the ring. So I will will search for a stone but not sure what would go 22mm X14mm.
     
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  14. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    They switched from using Roman letters to Arabic in 1940, but there are only just so many letters, so they had to begin using them over again, before finally changing over to western style markings. Your letter looks like one that was used for more than one period.
     
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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    amethyst .... goes with rose gold..
     
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  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    If it is one of the 'second rounders', it is 1996.
     
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  17. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Might suggest it may have originally held a scarab, likely faience...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    This isn't law, just my observation, but Egyptian jewellery holding a scarab(s) does not set the beetle in a way that hides the legs on the edges, so typically a prong setting. You can see that anything set in the ring would sit down into the bezel, hiding the edges, so I think a scarab would be unlikely, although could make quite an attractive ring.
     
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  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    is see what u mean.....but the scarab could rise above the bezel....... right?
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  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Pretty example. The exception that proves the rule (in the original meaning of that saying.) Doesn't look like this one swivels, although it is partly being held in place by pinning the drill holes at each end.

    Yellow gold, & I would guess 18K or better. When I first acquired some earrings the seller knew little about, my researches turned up that the marks were Egyptian & karatage mark looked like 12. Wanting to verify this, I took one to the Yemeni shopkeeper on the corner to confirm. When he first got it in his hands, he said, What is this? Is this gold? Tourists will buy 12K, not the locals.
     
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