Print Help ?

This was in my grandmothers belongings in a trashed period frame . I’ve seen it via Google although , I can’t read the signature or what’s written on the back . Translation tells me the first word on back may be ( POSSIBLY) any further help is always greatly appreciated.

 

The front translates to "Made by Kauffmann 1844." And, if the frame was of that period, hope you didn't trash it.

Debora

 

Kauffmann fecit 1844 is the wording.

 

The back appears to read "Moeglich" and "Cut down oak frame with silver _____" "Lining"?

Debora

 

Gestalting 'cut down/___ frame with silver lining?

Edit: Chasing Debora here. Agree, could say 'oak'.

 

What kind of product do you use to get that hairstyle? Just wondering.

 

Here she is. Winterhalter. 'Portrait of a Seated Lady."

https://www.christies.com/lot/franz...rt-am-main-4214256/?intObjectID=4214256&lid=1

Debora

 

Natural oils probably. It wouldn't have been very clean.

Debora

 

Original by Winterhalter, so perhaps Kauffmann was the print maker. "Fecit" Latin meaning "he/she made it" is a good word to look for on pieces to tell they have some age.

She's really lovely. Soft curls and delicate hands.

 

She is, isn't she? And I'm always so interested in 1840s (exaggerated) fashion. The bridge between Jane Austen and Queen Victoria.

Debora

 

I do so LOVE a puffy sleeve! The show Gentleman Jack did these silhouettes and unique hairstyles to a T and is was amazing to see them in action.

I would put this on my wall for sure.

 

Mirana, forgive me if you already know this but... In costume terminology, that would be called a leg-of-mutton sleeve.

Debora

 

An appropriate name for sure! I love any sleeve with puff, though the ones I own are not nearly so dramatic.

 

This is a strange one. It's a very precise copy. If it's a lithograph, why doesn't it have a Winterhalter credit? Could it be a one-off pencil copy? That seems unlikely to me just because it is so literal.

 

Winterhalter was a painter. Perhaps dueling print makers?

Debora

 

I looked at the two side by side because this print was so fine, but they seem to be exact.

Also noted sites saying the original was circa 1850 or 51. 1850 tends to be a general date when the precise is not known. But interesting that this one is specifically 1844, and in period handwriting.

 

Prints that are made from other people's work generally give the printmaker a credit and the originator of the image a credit as well. That doesn't seem to be the case here. I would find it understandable for a copyist to take entire credit if this is a pencil drawing, just because that seems to happen a lot.

The Christie's description of the Winterhalter says "black lead, grey wash". The Christie's photo is very soft, so I can't be sure of what's there. They say it's signed, and there's something in the lower right, but it's not legible in their photo, so who knows what other details might also be illegible.

This image could be pencil, but it also has the texture you expect in lithograph. I can't tell from the photo if it's a drawing or a lithograph (probably couldn't tell in person), but if it's a lithograph, then it would be a multiple counted as a reproduction, and a Winterhalter credit expected.

If it's a pencil copy, it looks pretty darn slick to me. Not your typical amateur or student. (I don't expect it is a drawing, but can only hope I'm wrong.)

 

I don't see a drawing either.

Debora

 

that’s what I was wondering , it’s exceptionally old ( I’m no spring chicken ) lol! My grandparents owned the first antique store in downtown Seattle, Washington, and this was amongst their belongings. They’ve been gone for decades . I read who the artist is , although signature is different… head scratcher to me

 

If I could find a pencil with an eraser, I could try to erase a little part of it ?