Featured Carnelian gold ring

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  1. Dog

    Dog New Member

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    I was wondering who is on the ring and how old it may be, also no mark on gold.
     

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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Nice ring. First third of the 19th century would be my best guess. Don't recognize the gent. The laurel wreath can indicate a hero, nobility/royalty, or someone touched by Apollo with a gift in the arts.
     
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  3. Dog

    Dog New Member

    Thanks for the info
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    maybe a French King...
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    He seems to be wearing a toga, so maybe Roman. Although royalty does dress up in the fanciest ways sometimes.;)
     
  6. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Cool ring! Very nice :)
     
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  7. Dog

    Dog New Member

    Thanks
     
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  8. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I thought Roman also.......and he seems a notable figure, but unless he's Darius Honkerous Maximus ....I couldn't find a likeness !!;):hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  9. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    I'm going to say William III as seen here by Wedgwood. An English ring should have hallmarks if gold, but maybe they're worn or it was set elsewhere.

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    Laurels on royalty were A Thing when they were all crazy about Ancient Rome and emulating it. His hair is a bit long to match most Roman emperor 'dos. Wedgwood did a lot of royal portraits so checking out the holdings in the British Museum, V&A, The Met, etc. are a good cheat sheet to all those profiles.
     
  10. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    A great deal of our gold isn’t marked.
     
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  11. Dog

    Dog New Member

     
  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    William III, who has a truly aquiline nose, from the Tassie impressions:

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    Ring Guy's jaw doesn't seem strong enough to me for William, but it's this sort of thing. Someone being glorified by comparison with a Roman emperor.
     
  13. Dog

    Dog New Member

    It looks a lot like William lll could ring be English?
     
  14. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Yes, it could.
     
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  15. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Ring guy seems sparing in his depiction in general with not the most spot on anatomy so I looked for nose, longer hair, and laurels. It's always a guess though!

    I'm so used to antique American precious metals having almost nothing and in jealously of countries that had/have a marking system so it's go to know some British gold doesn't have marks.
     
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  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Hallmarks didn’t really become nigh on universal on jewellery until, oh, after ww2. Mediaeval and Georgian stuff isn’t marked, and even Victorian stuff often isn’t, or simply has purity marks, such as 9 ct.
     
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