Meissen Mark Questions

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  1. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    20231103_121648.jpg 20231103_121903.jpg Hello, I could use some expert or knowledge I do not yet have or understand. I just got some Meissen pieces and the two crossed swords have slashes through them. No problem. I understand slashes or cuts were put through the swords from 1850-1872 to identify pieces not representing Meissen standards. Seconds I believe. Two of the crossed sword marks are not from the 1850-1872 time period yet they have the slash or cut marks. My first instinct was fakes. Then, I thought why fake something and make it of less quality. Then, I thought maybe that is the genius. Then I asked Laura and she suggested I bring it here. I am attaching pics.
     
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  2. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I'm not knowledgeable in Meissen, but I do know members usually like also to see the actual piece or pieces.........just an 'fyi'.......:happy:
     
  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Who was the Laura that you asked?
     
  4. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    Laura from Georgia Bean Estate Sales
     
  5. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Is that where you bought this item?
     
  6. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    I am trying to load pictures. I keep getting too large, so I crop. I am sure there is a better way.
     

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  7. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    Here is another plate, front and backstamp with slashes.
     

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  8. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    You might want to copy and save this for reference for a while....it helps when you're new!!!:rolleyes:

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  9. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    No, I bought them on an online auction by Companies Estate Sales out of Marietta, Ga.
     
  10. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Ohhhhhhhhhhh. "Our" Laura from Atlanta?
     
  11. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    Yes, that Laura.
     
  12. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    Here is a cup.
     

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  13. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Ah I am so sorry. I did not know the name of her business. :oops:
     
  14. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    I am so sorry but I could not find where to post full view
    I did try.
     
  15. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    I will try to find insert every image as full image. It was not on the page or under the options. I am sure it was somewhere but I could not find it. Darn rookies or newby's.
     
  16. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I am not well versed in porcelain marks so I suggest you wait until tomorrow when more members will be online.
     
  17. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    Thanks, I appreciate your help and patience. May I ask your expertise?
     
  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    what slashes r u talking about......I've never seen them and would find it very informative to do so.
     
  19. Steve Tucker

    Steve Tucker New Member

    The slashes are actually, and literally, cuts into the porcelain and across the swords to indicate pieces of lesser and/or unacceptable quality. They can also be next to the swords but are mostly not. These were only done from 1850-1872. The following excerpt from a Meissen mark history article on appletreedeals.com is as follows:
    Cautionary Note: Meissen used a system of marking pieces that were either sold undecorated or deemed inferior, by making “slashes” through or beside the crossed swords – as shown below.

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    • one slash – sold undecorated from 1740 through 1938
    • two slashes – tableware deemed of unsuitable quality from 1852 through 1870
    • three slashes – items of brack quality, (contained firing faults), from 1852 through 1870
    • four slashes – considered lowest quality, from 1852 through 1870
     
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  20. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    thank you.......now I see the cup !
     
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