Featured Help with Karbra Brooch and a bracelet

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Cabrina, May 19, 2021.

  1. Cabrina

    Cabrina Member

    Hi All!

    I had a second job at a Goodwill store for 10 years (best job ever!) and occasionally would purchase a piece or two of jewelry. I'm not a fan of jewelry so it's all packed away in a drawer. I always thought this pin was costume but recently I found the pearl to be gritty to the tooth so I pursued info on the maker, which is out of business. In any event, can IMG_3122.JPG IMG_3125.JPG IMG_E3122.JPG IMG_3148.JPG IMG_3126 (2).JPG anyone assist with whether or not this is costume or real?
    I also had purchased this bracelet and again - is it costume? Either way, any thoughts on when it was made? Thanks so much!
     
    mirana, kyratango, judy and 1 other person like this.
  2. Aznathalie

    Aznathalie Well-Known Member

    Karbra1961
    I think it is gold and pearl.
    Bracelet sterling.
    Silver. Old China.???
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2021
    mirana, KSW, Cabrina and 1 other person like this.
  3. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The bracelet looks 30s Chinese export, probably jade. Very nice.
     
    mirana, KSW, Cabrina and 1 other person like this.
  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, the bracelet is pre-WWII Chinese Export. Jade mounted in silver.
    The silver content in Chinese Export jewellery in those days was usually in the .800-.900 range, often towards the lower end. Sterling (.925) would be highly unusual.
     
    mirana, KSW, kyratango and 1 other person like this.
  5. Cabrina

    Cabrina Member

    All the information is much appreciated and I thank you all. I most particularly enjoy historical information more than anything else and I do my best to research, but again, I'm not so fond of jewelry as I am of other vintage items that I find myself drawn to. Thank you again!
     
  6. SUPERJUNK1970

    SUPERJUNK1970 Active Member

    The brooch is either 14 or 18 kt
    Gold.
    The maker IS kabra co.
    Casting company in NYC.
    MOSTLY gold. The number after COPYRIGHT IS YEAR created.
    About bracelet I agree with CHINESE import but the first PICTURE shows A MARK of 5?5 I'm guessing a closer look may really be 585 that equals 14kt gold.
     
    mirana, KSW, Cabrina and 1 other person like this.
  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    The picture below shows a mark that says SILVER, which is why Nathalie and I said silver;):

    upload_2023-10-29_19-0-57.jpeg
     
    KSW and kyratango like this.
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Tweaked it a little:

    IMG_3126 (2).JPG
     
    mirana, KSW and kyratango like this.
  9. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The pre-WWI export bracelets were usually silver.

    https://www.industrynet.com/listing/382713/karbra-co

    The company is still in business. I'd strongly doubt precious metal, but costume companies in that era often used real pearls and lower grade real stones in costume settings. Swoboda was famous for it. Krementz too.
     
    Any Jewelry, komokwa and J Dagger like this.
  10. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    If they marked the copyrighted company name and year that clearly you’d think they would mark the metal purity as clearly if it were pertinent. When viewed at the angle in second photo and zoomed in the back has that textured finish that many costume and many fewer “real” pieces have. I’ve always wondered why so many costume pieces have a textured finish to the metal. Alarmist wondered if it was to intentionally say “I’m costume”.
     
    Any Jewelry and komokwa like this.
  11. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That too. Also - the textures sometimes let us know whodunnit, even if not marked or jobbed out. A lot of D&E pieces made for Weiss, and marked as such naturally, have details on the back that are dead giveaways. Ciner circles are another prime example. 1928 jewelry company too - it's a way of knowing whodunnit even if a hanging tag falls off or was never there.
     
    J Dagger and mirana like this.
  12. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Same, but I assumed it was dressing up a necessary function... like making it textured to save on metal, or to more easily de-mold it.
     
    J Dagger likes this.
  13. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Possibly that too.
     
    mirana likes this.
  14. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    The front looks like it has a Florentine finish and missing gold plating in the cuts.
     
  15. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    You can get an inexpensive acid test kit for gold, silver, and platinum...but you have to scrape or file a bit of the item to test.

    My preferred method is to make friends with a local non-chain jeweler and have them test it for me. More likely for them to have the equipment on hand if they deal in estate jewelry. A pawn should also be able to test. Of course any business may ask for a small fee to do this.
     
  16. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    No files please.:stop::nailbiting:
    Test kits usually come with a testing stone, which you should use to avoid damage. Just rub the piece on the stone until it leaves a stripe. You place a drop of the testing liquid on the stripe.

    Filing lets you know if it is gold all the way through the file mark, or just a thin layer. But it damages the piece, which means you are left with the melt value only because no one will buy it.
    If you are uncertain about the result, take it to a jeweller to have it tested. Around here jewellers do it for free.
     
    Bakersgma likes this.
  17. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Ha we buy antique and vintage jewelry so clearly a little possible damage doesn't deter us from purchase! :playful: I don't file, but they do occasionally come with these kits which is why I mentioned them. My jeweler does testing of metals and stones for me for free as well. I once mentioned maybe I should get my own stone tester to leave him in peace and he told me absolutely not... That I always brought in amazing stuff for them to geek out about and he wanted to keep seeing it. :hilarious: So a friendly jeweler is definitely the best scenario! But I don't discount that they may ask for a little something in exchange before they know you.
     
    J Dagger, komokwa and Any Jewelry like this.
  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :joyful::happy:
     
    mirana likes this.
  19. J Dagger

    J Dagger Well-Known Member

    I didn’t know the texture pattern could be an indicator of the manufacturer but that makes sense! Good to know.

    Btw it’s too late to edit my post but I meant to type “Almost” in the place where “Alarmist” is. Lol.
     
  20. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    I agree, you'd expect the gold content to be marked if they went to the trouble to stamp the date... HOWEVER, looking online at other KARBRA pearl brooches ("61" and "63") they all claim to be tested, confirmed 14K and all unmarked as to gold content.

    I would assume this piece is 14K until told otherwise by a test.
     
    J Dagger likes this.
Draft saved Draft deleted
Similar Threads: Help Karbra
Forum Title Date
Jewelry Help Dating Locket Yesterday at 9:35 PM
Jewelry Rosary, please help! Nov 7, 2024
Jewelry Chi Omega Sterling charm help with maker Nov 3, 2024
Jewelry Cameo Help Needed Please Oct 30, 2024
Jewelry Help with identifying gold markings Oct 21, 2024

Share This Page