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Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by charlie cheswick, Oct 5, 2023.

  1. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It says 5. kilt pin, 6. claw pin, so the claw pin is different from the kilt pin.
    The sgian dubh and other items in that advert are also not kilt pins, only #5, the safety pin type, is marked as such.

    I have always seen the claw pin on the lapel, not on the kilt. The sgian dubh is of course worn in the stocking, the buckle on the belt, the buttons on the jacket, etc.
    That one shows Scottish jewellery and ornaments in general, including plaid brooches and decorative brooches. Even the luckenbooth, which is Lowland jewellery, not Highland, so not kilt related.

    I don't know why you posted these adverts, no one is disputing the existence of the claw brooch.:confused:

    An American (so-called?) baron of Rathdown as an authority on Scottish kilt pins, versus an official Irish baron of Rathdown, and assorted Scottish jewellery etc as proof. This is all getting too confusing for my tired brain, I'm out.
     
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  3. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    OK, I've had a rest and found a connection between the grouse foot pin and the kilt. Not from a Scottish dress historian though, but from a shop. On the upside, it is a Scottish shop:

    "In the Victorian period men would pin grouse claws to their kilts for good luck during hunting trips."

    https://stkildastore.com/Kilt-Pin-Grouse-Claw

    So according to them, it was worn as a good luck token during hunting trips.
    Nothing about its function as a kilt pin proper, only worn while hunting. And as I said before, it looks a bit short for a kilt pin.
    But I can see how the concept of pinning it to the kilt during the hunt would lead to confusion.

    This and other stories may have to be corrected by a Scottish dress historian who comes across this thread.

    The Rathdown mystery hasn't been solved yet.:D
     
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  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Harry MacMillan of Rathdown, VA probably.(LOL) Bought himself one of those square foot titles and now uses Baron as a title for no particular good reason. Or something like that.
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    My thought too.
    Those titles are usually total figments, but in this case it is an actual title, only it belongs to an entirely different family.
     
  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That's what comes of transplanting British place names to American places. :D:D:D
     
  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That is certainly confusing, but this Virginian MacMillan claimed to be baron of Rathdown in Ireland.
    I'm sure the good people of Rathdown had no idea they suddenly had two barons.:confused::eek:
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Just as long as only one collects taxes!
     
  9. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I do rather giggle at "Highland Games" held in the USA. ;)
     
  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I should hope so.:wideyed:
    Better than American Dutch costumes, or American Dutch clog dances.:rolleyes:

    Most Dutch costumes are too intricate or expensive to be replicated using cheap materials (heavy skirts of Tibetan wool, caps composed of up to 12 separate components). Plus most of the lace caps need gold or silver "oorijzers", clamps and pins to keep them in place. Quite an investment, although you could copy them in base metal. Still, you'd need a good craftsperson to do that.
    And clog dances are not traditional Dutch, but invented by the Dutch tourist board.:rolleyes:
    The Dutch tourist board has a lot to answer for anyway, those "cheese girls" are also a cheesy travesty.
     
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  11. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    -Me too Bear !
    I grew up in Santa Rosa,California.It's a burg in the California 'Wine Country about 55 miles north of San Francisco. Here's an article from the NYT,1971- 'Santa Rosa, Calif.—The largest gathering of Scottish clans in North America—complete with wailing bagpipes, tartan kilts and sealskin sporrans swirling in the breeze—will be held here for the 104th consecutive year on Labor Day weekend.' Other sources say 43 years.
    Why our town ended up hosting this fest is way beyond me-but we actually had a fair amount of Scots spend their hard-earned cash to attend it !
    It was just a normal annual event like the Cotati Accordion Festival or the County Fair Grape Stomp.
     
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  12. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Good excuse for a vay-cay in Cali, most likely.
     
  13. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    I like Oregon better now.But when California's not 110 degrees or full of wildfires the weather's heavenly.
    PS-Our friends down there seem to do just fine at their charity shops.
     
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