Featured Have I ever shown you this old sash?

Discussion in 'Textiles, Needle Arts, Clothing' started by Bookahtoo, Oct 8, 2023.

  1. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    I've had this old handmade cotton sash for at least 10 years. I got it during a house clean out in Central MA. I've kept it in a drawer all these years because it's so filthy and I've been too embarrassed to show it to anyone. Yet I've kept it, because it looks like it might have an interesting history.

    It's made of 3 3/4" wide white cotton fabric over some stiffened heavier fabric. It has a 3 1/4" wide hand made rosette on the center front. The rosette has a white fabric metal covered button in the middle. It is held together in the back by two strips of woven brown elastic. It is about 24" all around.
    There are two thin shreds of red fabric sewn onto the top front, which look like they were the beginning or end of some other feature.

    It looks to me like a belt for a costume or uniform possibly to be worn in a parade. I'm thinking for a dress or skirt.

    Any ideas?


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  2. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    I wonder if it might have been from WWI, and represents a poppy?
     
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  3. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Thanks Roaring. That's an idea!
     
  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

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  5. silverbell

    silverbell Well-Known Member

    That last picture looks like a giant bug!

    :)
     
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  6. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    An interesting, and lengthy, history of remembrance poppies:
    https://poppyladymadameguerin.wordpress.com/remembrance-poppy-timeline/

    I believe they generally had black centers... any chance yours is simply faded, Book?

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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ours were green for the longest time...

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  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  9. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I'd be thinking July 4 parade costume rather than a poppy. They used to take those parades seriously here, especially before WWI.
     
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  10. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    As an aside,I had to memorize the poem In Flanders Field by John McCrae for my schools Bicentennial program. I still remember it word for word.
     
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  11. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Meanwhile, I ran into a girl in church this summer with a poppy tat who'd never even heard of the poem. Didn't know the WWI connection either. Not even the Pete Seeger song - learned that one in German as well as English, when I was in college.
     
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  12. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

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  13. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    My first thought was an association with a Fraternal organization...but I'm not so sure, after reviewing all these posts an' links.
    I would have kept it too...very nice, Book...Thanks!
     
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  14. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Or... The anti-suffragettes wore red roses.

    Debora

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  15. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

  16. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Yikes!!! indeed!

    Debora
     
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  17. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    What a lovely thing! Just musing as to if it would be possible to unpick the poppy to carefully wash the belt, dry and restitch it back on? I know nothing about vintage textiles so don’t know if that is the ‘done thing’!
     
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  18. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    No more red roses for me then.:mad:

    Nowadays we can hardly get good roses here anyway. Our beautiful Dutch roses (from Brabant) have all but gone, we now get them from Kenya, which means they last about a day.:arghh: As a result most Dutch rose growers have gone bust, and so many people unemployed for sub-standard wilting roses.:(
    I'm all for supporting economies of poorer countries, but not like this.
     
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  19. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    These 2 little bits of red fabric make me wonder if the whole belt was formerly covered with a red wool that has since been consumed by moths (or dermestids).
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    Is there any fastener that allows the belt to open flat, or just the elastic?

    Probably not advisable. I suspect there would be problems with the layers not drying evenly, resulting in puckering. And if there are any stiffening agents (like heavy starching) that would likely be lost, changing the character of the fabric.
     
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  20. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Ours mostly get shipped up from Columbia. Look pretty, but they've bred the smell out. What's the point?
     
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