Featured Richard Ginori 1-49 12 cup/saucer/pot with lid Demitasse set

I have had this lovely Richard Ginori demitasse set, 12 cups and saucers plus pot with lid, since the early 90s when I bought it for no reason other than it was/is pretty. I've never used it. I don't have space to display it anymore. I don't have spawn to foist it on. Do I just let this set live with me rent-free until I die and it becomes someone else's problem, or do I try to sell it? Would anyone pay for it - or - would they pay enough to cover the cost and effort of shipping? Is it the sort of antique anyone cares about anymore? Is there a way to find out how old it is, or anything else about it? Set has some wear to the silver overlay on some of the rims and one area of coffee pot lid, but no cracks or chips. Any advice appreciated. Please don't judge me for stacking them for the photo, I didn't realize at the time that was bad.

 

have u tried replacements dot com for values....if they have the model.?

can you pack it for pick up , and list it on craigslist, or gumtree, or any local site.?

is there an auction house local to you who may accept it..?

 

It's definitely not dishwasher-friendly . I'd be thinking 1970s for a date. Selling it is going to be interesting, to put it mildly. If you have a decent-sized local population it might be worth putting it on Marketplace, Nextdoor, etc. Fine porcelain is a nightmare to ship, even if you break up the set. By the time the buyer pays for shipping you won't make anything on it...and you may have to file Government paperwork to prove it was a loss and not gain.

I'd probably donate it somewhere, and get a donation receipt for full value and take the tax deduction. It's the simplest route.

 

Actually, Richard Ginori is no longer being made & there would be buyers for this type of item. These buyers would not be deterred by the fact that these could not go into the dishwasher. JMHO

From what I could find online the mark is c.1940.

If you do a search for these types of items on eBay sold items some are quite nice.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...H_TitleDesc=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_sop=16

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...pot&_osacat=0&_sop=16&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...pot&_osacat=0&_sop=16&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

It all depends on how much you want to put into selling the set & where you live. If you live near one of the large auction houses you can always inquire if they would be interested.

BTW if you lived close by to me I know a person who would love to own this set as he adores Ginori porcelain among many other things.

 

@PartNouveau Welcome to the forum

I agree with @bercrystal, there are buyers for Ginori pieces so don't donate them.
Here is a link to a post about your mark, Walter Del Pellegrino was an expert on Italian ceramics - there is also a link to Ginori, maybe you could contact them to see if they know the pattern or able to give you a date of manufacture
old-ginori-china-identification-t702.html

 

I tried Replacements dot com to identify the pattern - sent them all the photos, measurements, etc - and received an email saying they do not carry "this pattern" and they are not interested in buying it. All I'd asked for was help identifying it / attaching a rough date to it. But they cut right to the chase!

Writing to Ginori is a great idea, I'll do it if I can figure out how to contact them directly.

 

I guess today that might be expected......what with all the folks looking to sell them their old dinner sets..!

nothing ventured.....

 

Can't say I'm surprised either. People either want help the company isn't being paid to give (as if) or to sell them grandma's china.

 

They suggest writing to them if you need assistance identifying a pattern. The service is a loss leader for the company because even though they don't receive money in exchange for the information provided, the person whose pattern is identified will then know what to shop for on the site.

 

Or what to sell for pennies. They may be currently overstocked with china, the effects of Lockdown and the great American cleanout, or they're severely understaffed. Or both.

 

I checked & there are 3 Facebook groups dealing with Richard Ginori porcelain.

Here is a link to the groups but you will have to make use of Google Translate or something similar unless you happen to speak Italian.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=richard ginori

If nothing else you can possibly find out the pattern name if there is one & get an idea of the age. You might also find someone who wants to buy it from you.

 

Thank you so much!!!

 

Do let us know what if anything you find out.

 

So far I've found out something that seems kind of obvious in hindsight - the backstamp numbers do seem to refer to the date the pieces were made: January 1949. I could be mistaken but it seems to be the case. The combined companies name Richard Ginori (Richard company joined with Ginori company) pictured with the three stars seem to be something they used in the early-mid 20th century. No official source, just what I've gathered from reading comments in different places referring to pieces with similar backstamps.

(I also learned the word "backstamp")

 

In case you didn't find this already, here is the English-language version of their website: https://www.ginori1735.com/us/en

There is a contact form here: https://www.ginori1735.com/us/en/help/contact-us

I also found an old link from 2011 that Walter used in a post on his Tapatalk group, saying this was a way to communicate with them in English. It is an address in New York, and may be a company-owned retail store? Although an old link, it still looks valid.
https://ginori1735.myshoplocal.com/info.cfm

 

If you want to sell it, what sales sites do you have access to? Can you sell it on Facebook Marketplace? That way you can sell it locally and not worry about shipping, or you can ship if you want to. There are other neighborhood sites for sharing/selling off to neighbors. Ginori has always been popular in my experience. I'm sure someone would snap this up, even without all the background. I was an ebay seller and had no problem selling Ginori. But just getting signed up as a seller is a fair hassle, that's why FB might be better.