Featured Zuni Bear fetish help with signature?

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by 916Bulldogs123, Jul 22, 2023.

  1. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    Hi all,
    I bought this little 4 1/2" long bear with the understanding it wasn't signed.
    When I got it home, I saw what looks like a signature or letters and or numbers on the bottom. Am I just seeing things or is this a Signature?
    Thank you in advance for any and all help on this.
    Mikey
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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Looks like it could be a siggy. Maybe rub some cinnamon or cocoa powder in it, so you get more contrast?

    The stone could be selenite, with those translucent looking parts.
     
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  3. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    I'll give it a try AJ.
    Thank you very much, I thought I was seeing things!
    You made my morning!
    Mikey
     
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  4. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

    Seems the writing is not deep enough for the cinnamon. Maybe a little better?
    Mikey
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    A little, but not enough.:(
     
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  6. lovewrens

    lovewrens Well-Known Member

    You could try paper/pencil rubbing, maybe?
     
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  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It's distinctive in the use of beads for the heartline & feathers pointing fore & aft in the bundle.
     
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  8. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but it looks to me like saw marks that did not get polished out.
     
  9. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    Ellen Quandelacy was the matriarch of a large family; one of her sons originated a bear with spirit-line design...that's all I remember, and would have to look up his name; but his design has been very widely imitated, and I'd guess this piece is not his, but one of the copiers.
     
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