Maker's Mark Identification

Good Afternoon, recently bought this porcelain piece at a sale in Virginia that I believe is Dresden or Germany, but after looking online and thru my home library, I am unable to identify the maker's mark. Was hoping someone might provide me with an answer, please...? The piece itself is porcelain and lace and measures 10 inches wide and 12 inches tall. Thank You! (PS.. What IS that symbol below the crown, anyway...?)

 

Possibly Furstenberg?

 

Rontgen's book of marks has these two similar marks for Ackermann & Fritze and for Witter. I dont know if either is yours.

 

I forgot to mention that in this particular book the Furstenberg crown F marks I see have a huge F and a tiny rounded crown.

 

Thanks Christine, I paid $80 for it. I hope did ok....

 

Thank you for your insights...

 

Thanks for your posting... Kinda funny in that my mark seems to be a combination of the TWO marks you show (ornate crown on top pic with the larger "F" shape from the bottom pic... Interesting...

 

Many companies used crowns in their marks, often without any sort of royal approval.
These "Dresden Lace" type figurines were often made in Germany, though Irish Dresden does exist.
Sorry but IMHO, it's not really polite to ask how much someone paid for something. Some people do mention this without being asked, however... which is their choice, of course.

 

Googling around, it seems to me that various places are saying its a Witter mark I think.

 

Many Thanks... I am inclined to agree from what I am seeing. Thanks for your expertise!

 

Let me just drop the following: Ackermann & Fritze used various "core" marks which - while all pretty similar - show a large amount of variation. Shown mark (and figure) is definitely Ackermann & Fritze.

Roentgen's claim on certain marks having belonged to Witter are bullshit, by the way.

 

@Chris Marshall
Bless you for helping! I did try to sort it out on your site but obviously failed.

I'm making a note in my Rontgen's. I'd like to have a Chris Marshall book.

 

Wow!! Thanks... This stuff is head scratching... Would you happen to have an example of the Ackermann & Fritze variation that looks like the mark on my piece, please? Thanks Chris!

 

Sign me up for an advanced copy of the CM Maker's Mark book as well, please!

 

Hey Chris, I also noticed that on the back of the base next to the maker's mark there appears to be stamped into the porcelain "1867". Unfortunately, it is very small and barely legible, and I can't get a good photo of it. just looking and knowing the maker, when would you date my piece? I am not even guessing or suggesting that it's actually 1867, and again it's what it appears to be stamped. Thanks!

 

Most of the figurines with the fired lace on them that I've found have been post-WWI. I think they used cotton lace, dipped in slip and the lace itself fired off in the kiln. I'd imagine 1867 is a design number.