wucai cup and saucer, is there a name for this mark with parallel lines? (similar to old Worcester)

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by sunday silence, Jun 18, 2023.

  1. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    I know Worcester also used similar pattern for some of their early marks. And I know these are also Chinese. But is there a reference book or online site that identifies this mark with a maker or a time period? Is there even a name for this mark?


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  2. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Like pseudo-Chinese?
     
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  3. 916Bulldogs123

    916Bulldogs123 Well-Known Member

  4. Hi @sunday silence - nice items! To me the first and last photos (multi-color cup + saucer) look to be 18th century Chinese, likely Qianlong period, decorated in the "Amsterdam Bont" style. These were blue and white export pieces intended for the European market that were then decorated by Dutch artists after reaching Europe. Here is some additional info on the style and an example from eBay:

    https://gotheborg.com/glossary/amsterdamsbont.shtml
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/133667296796

    The middle photos (the saucer with the swirl) looks to be a late 19th / early 20th century Chinese Qing period dish intended for the southeast Asian market (primarily Malaysia / Singapore). This style is often referred to as "Kitchen Qing" and you'll regularly see pieces with Chinese characters drilled into the front like yours (possibly the owners name / belonging to a restaurant).
     
  5. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    oh wow thanks for all the loads of information everyone. That was very informative.

    janet: yes when you say "pseudo Chinese." I get what you're saying but my understanding is that this sort of mark was indeed used on chinese wares before Worcester started to make a similar mark(s). So is there a maker or time period associated with this Chinese: "concentric triangles" or parallel lines or whatever mark?
     
  6. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    Nice items.
     
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