Featured Old Paris porcelain how old? Pre 1850?

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  1. Kaiserpoo

    Kaiserpoo Well-Known Member

    Catch of the day. Old Paris porcelain how old? Pre 1850? Thx

    it’s amazing how small they used to paint things.




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    Last edited: Jun 16, 2023
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  2. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    It does look like a hand painted scene.
     
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  3. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Im guessing more late 19th century.The quality isnt quite what earlier pieces seem to have.
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I agree, too late for Old Paris. And not the Old Paris style imo. Too many frills and too much gold to be Old Paris.
     
  5. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    Can we see the inside picture?
     
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  6. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    I don't think this is old Paris, but rather Japan made for USA souvenir market. It's the sort of item that could have been made in the late fifties to early sixties. It's not well done, and has handling wear on the edges but non on the base. It appears to have been stored for a long time, as there is no dust or wear to the bottom edge of the vase. I deduce the gold paint is very fragile.
     
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  7. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    I agree with Japan. The scene is Japanese. I took the Handling Wear to be intentional, perhaps to make it look older? My great aunt had pieces like this in the 50s. Her decor was "oriental" as it was called then.
     
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  8. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    I'm going to differ a bit here. Late 19th c. The scene isn't Japanese, but a generic European landscape scene. It is hand-painted, but that bright gilding that wears like that wasn't only Japanese, but some German factories used similar too. The fact that the base colour is only on the front also points to "cheap and cheerful" wares. So, continental, likely German -- some German factories made a lot of souvenir ware at the time.
     
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  9. ola402

    ola402 Well-Known Member

    Good to know. I looked at the scene with a magnifying glass and what I took to be a Japanese pointed hat is actually just a hat. The "Mt. Fuji" generic mountain in the background threw me. Thanks for the info!
     
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  10. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Yes this is true too. I'd forgotten about German souvenir ceramics. I'd say it's a toss up and the gold is not even ceramic cold paint, but any old painted gold color not mindful of the wear factor.

    Very possible. It certainly does not look like actual ceramic glaze paint, but something lesser gold color.
     
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  11. antidiem

    antidiem Well-Known Member

    Sorry to mess with your "catch of the day" by a century! ;)
     
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