Featured CAMEOS: Show & Tell or Ask & Answer

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Our dear bluumz made me buy this cameo.



Her allure was not only the obverse. She will be a while in coming. In the meantime, taking bets on what these tantalizing inscriptions will say. Bottom is 'Roma'; starts off with an F. In between...?

 

Just above is.... the 3000th comment!
Congrats @Bronwen for your great thread!

Edit: sniped!

 

And we finally blew 'Recognize the jewelry mark?' out of the water on number of views. For a while we were jockeying for position among threads in the jewelry forum. Even as old & specific as that one is, it kept getting views just as we surpassed it.

 

I can’t wait to hear your opinions on it when you have it in hand.

 

I'm hoping a bath will improve the look of the line of the mouth while not also destroying the illusion of depth in other areas. Then there's the great fun of trying to decipher any inscriptions & see if it's someone we know or someone who leaves us wondering who the heck that is.

 

@bluumz For you, signed Filippo Verge:



This is the common version of Iris carrying water from the River Styx.

Wilhelm Schmidt took this image & ran with it in opal, his signature material, altering the image so that it is usually seen as Dawn. One example:

 

Worst case of Byne's Disease I have ever seen:

 

I saw that one, too, and recognized Byne's, thanks to you.
It gives the impression of a winter snow on this piece, helped by the cloudy stuff they're walking on.

 

@Bronwen

Since I can't post photos from my own files in our convo about Telemachus vs. Castor, I shall summarize here.

The piece from William Tassie's catalog:



The webpage on it:


The text, identifying it as a head of Castor:



Poniatowski's "Head of Telemachus":



There are quite a few Telemachus items in the Poniatowski collection and all but the one above show T in tableaux with others such as Ulysses, Minerva, and Amphinomus. In the tableaux pieces, T looks very like the profile above. But gorgeous youths in piloses seemed to abound during that time, LOL. There are a lot of "youth in pilos" in the pottery section of the CARC website.

And lastly, my cameo:

 

@bluumz Did you check your convos before you did all this work? Great demonstration of what a quagmire trying to pin down IDs can be.

 

I see "F Manor VPea"...

I suspect that's incorrect.

 

My hypothesis is that the middle line is the 'veu' from 'graveur', written with inconsistent pressure, but we will have to wait.

How are you coming with this one?



Just checked with loupe & it is stray scratch the makes the last 3 letters look like they could be se_; close to certain it is ie_.

 

gak. Initially, my best guess was "Solier," but that first letter is puzzling.

So, I did what I do in these situations -- I drew it a dozen or so times.

Even if it doesn't look like one, the stroke pattern makes much more sense as a "T", so now my best guess is "Tolier"

But I haven't had time to research either name.

 

I'm pretty stuck seeing Solier, which is a name people have had. I do the same thing of tracing the strokes & first letter is not much different from how I was taught to make a cursive capital S except there's no loop at the top where the upstroke turns & starts back down. That looping back from left to right that would be the crossing of a T is also needed to get the pen back to the right to do the next letter after completing an S.

 

Having just done some census checking, SOLIER is the more viable of the two.

There are some TOLIERs, but so few (less than 1% of the total ?OLIERs) that I put them in the "statistically more likely to be transcription errors than surname" category.

 

A free Ponytail Girl for $1.25 and proof of purchase!
(Circa 1972.)

 

From etsy:



Circa 1920s Deco Cameo Sterling Silver Brooch Pin
$1,500.00

Free shipping to United States

What do we all think?

 

Molded plastic?

 

Molded something. She's yet another of those cameos I call 'Danbiere' because the little boxes with the same cameo on the lid say L.P. Danbiere Paris on the bottom. There is every reason to think this is not the actual name of the company, which I have never been able to ascertain. See this thread:

https://www.antiquers.com/threads/numismatic-fraud-mystery.31383/

 

Absolutely, definitely NOT 1920s Art Deco!!!!!!!!!

Looks like plastic to me also.