Featured Strange fastening on necklace

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Houseful, Apr 1, 2023.

  1. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    I bought this to hopefully learn something. The beads are shell I think, the spring catch isn’t gold but I think the other bits are. They look older too, there’s hard brown wax inside holding the bead thread inside. Should there have been another string of beads there? It all looks a bit odd. Any thoughts please? Thanks.
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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    It does look as though it was originally a 2 strand necklace.

    I see some possibility it is coral. It depends on the look of the handful of beads that have some color to them. More pix, centered on pinky-orange beads?
     
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  3. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    When I bought them I hoped they were coral but they seem a bit too cold and haven’t got much surface variation, just a few pinky bits here and there. This is the best I can do with the pics lighting atm.
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  4. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    The largest bead is 1cm across.
     
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  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    After examining my largest coral piece, I like the blush on some of your beads for coral. Not sure what 'too cold' means. I cannot see them as stone.
     
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  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    My first thought was white coral too. Found some myself not long ago and promptly restrang the poor dears. I agree that something's missing.
     
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  8. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    Not stone, I’ve got some red corals and these ones just seem a bit colder in the hand also these look a bit rough in their shape especially the smaller ones so I assumed shell. I remember when I found some beads I thought were coral but correctly identified by you as conch.
    I’m happy to be wrong, I’ve been looking for white/angel skin coral for some time, strange if I might have found some and not realised it!
     
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  9. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    They will have to be restrung as a single strand, would they need to be knotted? I’ve had a look at some others online, the beads all look round, mine aren’t and look a bit shoddy in comparison.
     
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  10. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    Is the brown wax an antique method of securing bead threads?
     
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  11. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    Probably pitch and not wax.Also known as Cutlers' pitch/resin.
     
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  12. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    They really do look like coral? Have you got a really good loupe to look close up to see if there are striations within the beads? Nice ends - wonder if you could string the coral with something alternating to make two strands? Or use the ends for something else and find a nice clasp for these?
     
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  13. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    It did seem odd if it was wax as that would likely soften in the recess on a hot day and would loosen the threads. Thank you.
     
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  14. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    I can’t see any striations looking at other strands online.
    I’ll have a good loupe look tomorrow in daylight but really they don’t look to have any.
    I’ve got a single 9ct tube clasp somewhere that I can use for these.
    I wouldn’t know know what to do with these ends as I don’t have any cutlers pitch to secure the beads. Seems wrong to fill with modern glue?
     
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  15. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    There was a post about pitch glue a few months ago but I can’t remember who posted it! I remember there was a discussion about alternatives.
     
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  16. Gus Tuason

    Gus Tuason Well-Known Member

    The two end pieces, that are alike, are from a hair pocket watch chain. They are likely to be victorian and of low carat gold. Like 8 or 9 carat. From what I can see they do not look like gold filled. Hair ages and frays and becomes ratty. I would imagine that whoever strung the beads recovered them and repurposed them.
     
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  17. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I would, but that's my go-to.
     
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  18. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Agree with @Gus Tuason and @Hollyblue.
    This pitch-resin was used for hair jewellery and victorian Scottish stones inlays. Modern Indians use it too for snake chain's ends! I bought one in a little shop in India, the seller adapted the length of the chain and fixed the clasp that way in front of me!
    To remove the clasp, just heat with a lighter and pull, the difficult part is to scrape the remaining residues inside:D.
    I'm too with the white coral Id...
     
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  19. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    That’s why they looked odd to me, even if they had have had another strand of beads. Thank you. I bought them to learn and I certainly did.
     
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  20. Houseful

    Houseful Well-Known Member

    Thank you, will do. My first white coral find too:)
     
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