victorian cat painting

can anybody read the signature on this large victorian cat painting.....robert m........

many thanks

 

Robert Morley (1857-1941)
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/robert-morley-british-1857-1941-a-westie-175-c-9334a74b89

 

Can You post more detailed photos of your painting.If it's an original Edwardian Cat painting by Robert Morley (1857-1941),it could be worth 5-6K,providing it's not some type of clever print or a hand-painted copy being done in Asia (China has some excellent assembly-line copyists).

 

Yes, and please include photographs of the painting including frame from both the front and back. Also, please tell us how you acquired it and what you know about it.

Debora

 

came from a trift shop....did think it was late victorian but have done some research on the label on the back......the company came ltd in 1901..and were printers of prints and books so think this original was used to make prints????..have listed it on ebay....

 

The presence and wording of the back label incline me to think this is a print and not a painting. Where on the back is the label located? On the frame?

 

top corner...taken out of the frame-paint over the edge of the board,also texture on the picture also printers would have used an original to make a print,,also picture is very dirty

 

Bemrose & Sons were printers. With a quick glance... The internet says "Bemrose & Sons Limited" dates to 1901 - 1906.

Debora

 

Really need more info, have you got a magnifying glass to check for print dots? The frame looks typical for a print.

 

Apologies. With a further (quick) glance... The Snow Hill, London label dates this to 1906 or later. Here's the source.

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/people/cp2730/bemrose-and-sons-limited

Debora

 

This painting is on offer on eBay UK and the seller has identified the artist as Robert Morley. Given your query, do you have reason to doubt that?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/37458292...KUdGUvz2G5jQsANFluouYFprxY|tkp:Bk9SR5qem4zlYQ

Debora

 

I cannot see it properly, the op hasn’t said if it’s painted on canvas, or paper stuck on wood or board etc.
I would like more info as Bosko and Bakersgma have asked for, to help the op if I can.

 

Circuitous as it might be,I personally would get the piece authenticated before Listing.A genuine Morley could put a extra few grand in your pocket.Victorian printers had some very convincing (including hand embellished) techniques when it came to replicating paintings.Good luck !

 

hi there...frame is just a modern frame..heres more photos...picture on mahogany board with bevelled edge

 

Do you have a 10x Triplet Loupe ? You will get a more detailed idea w/ one of those re dot/litho poss-printed base art.I remember @Bronwen saying she'd picked-up a microscopic lens for her camera to get really fine closeups.
PS-Hope my memory serves me right Bronwen,if not apologies.

 

do have loupe..cant see any dots and have cleaned it in a corner with acetone only dirt going off

 

hi there..taken photos on my phone upto 10 times

 

Thank you. Looking like a lovely oil painting, good find

 

BlackBk-Those last 3 Pics are what we needed ! The topography of the paint strokes look good to me.I can't tell you if it's a genuine Morley,but from what I can see (2K miles away),seems a real painting.
PS-You in the UK as I assume ? ...folks rarely list their Country of Origin on the Profile Page-perhaps don't want the tax revenue drones circling over the house ?

 

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