ID Needed for Etched Clear Stemware Please

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by birgittaw, Jul 19, 2014.

  1. birgittaw

    birgittaw Active Member

    If I've sold any glass that wasn't lighting in the past 18 years!, on eBay, I sure can't remember. So it's not surprising to me that I'm so clueless on what a partial set of clear stemware with fairly plain etching may be. I thought perhaps the shape of the stem could be helpful in ID? The glass dealer downtown didn't know either what these were or the pattern on the punch bowl base I asked about earlier. Initially, I thought they were amber, but that turned out to be a THICK layer of nicotine. Wow!

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  2. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    Wild guess .......Libbey Rock Sharpe 3005 Etched Champage Coupe
     
  3. George Nesmith

    George Nesmith Well-Known Member

    Look at Replacements under that stem blank id and you can see the cuttings done on it. There are several on 3005. I agree with the stem no.
     
  4. birgittaw

    birgittaw Active Member

    Thanks, great help here. Really appreciate it -- I was hoping the stem would narrow it a bit since there are so many variants on the cuttings.
     
  5. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    If you could shoot a photo straight on & possibly just show one side of the bowl I should be able to pinpoint which 3005 pattern this one is. I have a wonderful reference for Libbey stemware that has all of their stemware patterns.
     
  6. Cherryhill

    Cherryhill Well-Known Member

    Libbey stemware

    A gentle reminder, Libbey may have bought Cataract Rock Sharpe, but didn't make the glass or do the cutting. This is a fiction that Replacements imposed upon us.
     
  7. birgittaw

    birgittaw Active Member

    Thanks Peggy! Seems to be two patterns here, mostly what I see is Halifax,but then there is this one. If you can help, would be grateful!

    I don't know how you glass dealers do it! I could sell at a show, maybe Liberty, but I'm not known for what we affectionately call "granny glass" in Atlanta...

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  8. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    They did this stem in 21 different patterns & near as I can tell this stem does not match any of the ones shown. This may be a case where a company bought the blank & did their own cutting.

    So if it were me I would put a low price on them at a show & hope someone just wants some pretty dessert stems.
     
  9. birgittaw

    birgittaw Active Member

    OK. How cheap? In Halifax, there are two iced teas, four wines, and two sherbets/champagnes. I may just have to go to Charlotte in August for a paycheck, skipping Atlanta.... but they might like them there. And you know how much I like Charlotte -- I can stay with the Picker though,
     
  10. I think you have a liquor cocktail, which is very similar in shape to the sherbet/champagne but shorter (5-3/4" as I recall). The cutting appears to be a fuchsia design on the #3005 stem, not shown the the Page-Frederiksen books. Take a look at #3005-18 at R Ltd.

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  11. Marie Forjan

    Marie Forjan Well-Known Member

    These stems are cut, not etched. The cut design has not been polished, that is why it looks frosted.

    Cutting is done by hand, each piece individually and there can be differences from stem to stem. Etching was done with acid, a resist and patterns. Since there were patterns many of the etch designs are well documented. Because cut designs are done by hand, piece by piece, they were not well documented. Also, small decorating shops could do cut designs on blank stems.

    All this means it may be hard to ID your stems.
     
  12. janettekay

    janettekay Well-Known Member

    For what it is worth...as I recall I had some glasses in this pattern..never ID'd them. (though mine had plan stems ) Sorry..
     
  13. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

    As an aside, the liquor cocktail is the most misidentified critter! Nobody has such things anymore -- in fact not really since the last Nick and Nora Charles movie. In fact, the last time I actually saw one in use, was in a Luvly restaurant in England. It was used to serve a ping pong ball-sized bit of lemon ice as a palate cleanser between courses. :)
     
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