Most Noble Order of the Garter? Cups/Saucers - Swan?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by bluumz, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Yes, in construction they aren't anything special.
    Perhaps ware used in the dining hall 30-40 years ago? I'm just trying to come up with some reason for their existence.
     
  2. rhiwfield

    rhiwfield Well-Known Member

    Was hoping that someone had nailed this but no luck so far.

    Items were made in UK, not necessarily for a UK entity.
    Items are low quality for everyday use. Think school, college, municipal building, visitor attraction, even corporate.

    Garter with motto is common
    Coronet mitre is more unusual, ecclesiastical link.
    Swan, or pelican, to centre.

    Can find crests that feature 2 of the 3 above, like Winchester College, but not all 3.

    Where does that leave me? Stumped!
     
  3. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    SOLVED!

    I emailed photos to the "Senior Common Room and Hall Manager" at Corpus Christi College, Oxford. I received a reply from the manciple that confirmed the sets were originally from the college dining hall and stated that they "still have a few kicking around".
    Quite a coincidence since I just visited Oxford in August of this year (I live in Michigan, USA) but I only had time to tour one college: Christ Church.
    Thanks, Cheryl, for pointing me in the right direction. And a thank you also to the others who put some time/effort into researching this for me.
     
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2015
  4. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Heh, figured that would be where they came from - my Mom has collected swans for decades, I know a 'pelican in her piety' when I see it, only took a couple of minutes to find using the correct term.

    You're very welcome, and thank you for acknowledging everyone's effort - appreciation for the time taken to share opinions, expertise and references seems in increasingly short supply anymore...

    ~Cheryl
     
  5. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    The pelican was symbolized as a bird that stabbed her chest to cause blood to flow to feed her chicks. It is a very old symbol. Only found out about it when I found a large painting of a pelican stabbing her chest. It under two inches of soot after the fire in the Brooklyn church I helped restore.
    greg
     
  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Dining sets makes perfect sense. All the Oxbridge colleges have dining halls and insist on students dining in frequently.
     
  7. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Thanks again, everyone, it's just amazing how this investigation came together! :)
     
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