Please help ID Carnival Glass

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  1. Happy!

    Happy! Well-Known Member

    Please help with any keywords for a title--is this "dogwood blossom, orange"? DSC09349 500.jpg DSC09350 500.jpg ?
     
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  2. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Are you basing the color on the surface or the base glass color?

    The color name used for carnival glass is the color of the base glass, which you can see when you hold the item up to a strong light.
     
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  3. Happy!

    Happy! Well-Known Member

    Just guessing looking at it. Do not have it in hand to check the base against the light.
     
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  4. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you're in a hurry. If no one comes along soon with a real answer, this might help a little bit.
    I'll agree it's dogwood. I doubt anyone would say "orange." Gets fancier with names like Marigold or Peach, etc. But that's about my limit.

    Check this out. http://www.ddoty.com/dogwoodspray.html
    You should get a lot more info. there.
     
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  5. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I should have clarified... when checking the color, it's usually easiest to tell when looking at the bottom, again with a strong light coming from behind the glass.

    The names that have developed are very specific. I agree with TheOldGuy that the ddoty site is an excellent resource.
     
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  6. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    The pattern is Illusion by Fenton. The color is marigold, which is the orange surface treatment on clear glass.
     
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  7. Happy!

    Happy! Well-Known Member

    Thank you everyone for your help and knowledge. Have bookmarked the Doty page. Illusion looks like it is common in this color and not worth much these days.

    Looks like unless you have the electric blue colors in Carnival Glass or an extremely rare pattern, that not much is selling. What to do with all of this glass?
     
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  8. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Skeez, I'm curious how you could you tell that it's on clear glass without seeing the item in person? Is it so common that there aren't other possible glass colors?
     
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  9. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    Pat, I was thinking about that, too. Took another look at Doty's and his sale prices mention Happy's bonbon in only marigold and blue. I also wonder how the base would look with a strong light through it. Marigold, just orange. Blue? It has more of a mixture but would be just blue in the center.
    http://www.ddoty.com/illusion.html
     
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  10. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    We were pretty advanced collectors of carnival awhile back. When you see this marigold color you know it is on a clear base glass. There are rare marigold pieces.

    You will also see the orange applied to white opalescent (clear base with white edges) which is called peach.

    Rarely you'll encounter the marigold treatment on Vaseline glass.
     
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  11. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Ah, so you've had a lot of experience with it. What types did you collect?

    I have about a dozen pieces of carnival that were my mother's, some relatively rare and some common. I'd like to sell them, but still haven't gotten up the nerve to ship glass other than small things.
     
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  12. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Not to correct but Dogwood has Four petals. This definitely has five petals. I wish I had 3 dollars for every piece of carnival glass that passed through my fingers through the years.
    greg
     
  13. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I just wish I'd sold my carnival 10 years ago!

    Actually, I wish I'd sold a lot of my better stuff 10 years ago. Once I saw prices falling on things, I held off, thinking the economy would turn around soon. Hah! :rolleyes:
     
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  14. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    Please Greg. Don't tell all those glass manufacturers the truth about dogwood blossoms. Think of all the books and websites they'll have to change. And they'll just pass on the cost to consumers. :oops:

    While here, please correct me if I'm wrong. I've had some carnival glass such as the Northwood purple fruit bowl I bought at auction in 1961. It lasted about 3 years before the kids sent it to the trash can. But the vases and some other items were family pass downs and are still being passed down.
    Question. Carnival glass is technically iridized?
    If carnival glass is such, is all iridized glass carnival?

    Yes, Pat, I predicted the end of the downturn to be late 2011.
    Anyone want some Vallerysthal, Sandwich Glass, Gilinder etc. at half price?'

    The answer is no. Maybe at 1/4?
     
  15. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Depressing, isn't it? :(
     
  16. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    Carnival glass is irridized pressed glass made with at least a minimum pattern. The iridescence is what makes it Carnival glass.
    Made by Northwood, Fenton, Millersburg, and many others originally between about 1910-1920 +/-.

    Iridized pressed glass with no pattern is usually referred to as Stretch glass.

    Iridized hand blown glass is a whole other ball game, Loetz, Steuben, Durand, ...Tiffany etc..
     
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  17. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi TheOldGuy,
    I am glad you did not take my message as an insult. These damn glass companies and three authors have been driving me crazy for years. I have been writing to several authors of where they got their info. It seems that they just paraphrased others. The Dogwood is second to all the so called Vaseline propionate's in my list of
    mistakes. I have calmed down a lot since I've gotten older and don't scream and yell like I used to. :rolleyes:
    greg
     
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  18. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    We sold ours about 17-18 years ago, at Brimfield mostly. We probably got at least three or four times what we could get for it today. Though we did have some killer pieces that may even be a little more costly today. We Collected all carnival glass. We had 10 Good luck bowls and plates in rare colors. Lots of Millersburg. Good stuff.
     
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  19. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi Don,
    Me too. I know I've sold over 300 pieces and given another 35-40 as presents. My dear to my heart will always be Fiesta. Just really sorry about selling the turquoise covered soup bowls. I found a note in some journals that I wrote in the 60s. My favorite loves were Fiesta, Vaseline, Carnival, Stangl and Sophia Loren.
    greg
     
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  20. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Don and Greg, I would have enjoyed seeing your collections.
     
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