Any chance of identifying this girl?

Discussion in 'Ephemera and Photographs' started by Pat P, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    This is a Witzel studio photograph from the early 1900s. It has his mark, but doesn't identify the girl. From what I've read, Witzel was a popular photographer of celebrities in and around Hollywood.

    It's not Shirley Temple since Witzel died less than a year before she was born.

    It's possible she's just a child, but so many of Witzel's photographs were of people in movies that she could be a child star. She does seem awfully young for that to be the case, though.

    I found this photo with others my mother had, and the others are of adult women actresses.

    I've searched Google images and even uploaded this photo to their image search, but haven't found another copy of this photo. Does anyone have any suggestions that might help identify her?



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  2. GaleriaGila

    GaleriaGila Hola, y'all!

  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Perhaps the daughter of a star or mogul?
     
  4. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Yup, he was famous. Gila, that's the site I was using for reference, too. :)

    You may be right, Bakers. I just wonder at her being topless. Wouldn't that be unusual if it were just a photo a parent was having done?

    Since she is topless, I'm thinking it's likely to be from the '20s. Even in the teens, I'd think Victorian and Edwardian modesty would have said this wasn't acceptable. Or was child nudity not viewed the same way?
     
  5. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

  6. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Book, she does look like Virginia Davis in that photo, doesn't she? Thanks. :)

    How old does the girl in my photo look? I was thinking 2 or 3? Trying to figure out if that fits with Virginia Davis' age and story.
     
  7. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Here's another photo of Virginia Davis. She does look very similar.

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  8. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    This is the photo of Virginia Davis in Book's link...

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  9. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    If her hair was blonde Id have thought Shirley temple. But obviously not,date wise.
     
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  10. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Johnny, I thought it looked like Shirley Temple, too, but the photographer died less than a year before she was born.

    I wish it were Shirley Temple... would have made the photo more valuable! :)
     
  11. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    His brother ran a studio under Witzel until 1952. How do we know its NOT Shirley ? lYtPe0p.jpg
     
  12. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    They look very similar, but I see differences in their features. It looks to me like Shirley's chin was pointier and her cheekbones were different.

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  13. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I'm not sure it's a child star. It may have been the child of an actor or director. It reminds me of an advertisement photo that I've seen.
     
  14. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    At that age, how can you be sure it's a girl?
     
  15. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Good question... I just get the feeling the child is a girl, but I suppose it's possible it's boy.
     
  16. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    Geez. Nobody recognized Miley Cyrus?

    She started young with the disrobing photos.

    But I admit she was much cuter then.




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    Last edited: Nov 2, 2015
  17. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Maybe Miley in a pre-life?
     
  18. silverthwait

    silverthwait Well-Known Member

  19. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Elizabeth Taylor?
     
  20. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Nope, way too early a photo to be Liz.
     
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