Litho Print?

Discussion in 'Art' started by Tricia Harr, Aug 27, 2019.

  1. Tricia Harr

    Tricia Harr Well-Known Member

    2019-08-27-22-50-32.jpg 2019-08-27-22-50-44.jpg Hi, does anyone Recognize this? Is it a print? A Litho? Should I take it out of frame?
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  3. Bronwen

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  5. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Your print appears to be a later reproduction of a hand colored lithograph originally published as a plate in Daniel Giraud Elliot's 1872 book: A Monograph of the Phasianidae or Family of the Pheasants. Here is an example of the original, offered by Donald A. Heald, Rare Books, Prints and Maps:
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    https://www.donaldheald.com/pages/b...f/thaumalea-amherstiae-lady-amhersts-pheasant

    You can see that the text and typeface at the bottom of the original is different from your copy.

    Yours appears similar (though somewhat faded) to a reproduction listed on liveauctioneers.com, published by H.S. Crocker Co.:
    https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/16470636_lithograph-thaumalea-amherstiae

    Your photograph is not detailed enough to determine whether yours is reproduced by lithography or some other type of print method.
     
  6. CheersDears

    CheersDears Well-Known Member

    OP's is the print I prefer. I think it is rather nifty and wouldn't take it out of the frame. Some great info from the brains trust, as usual.
     
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  7. Tricia Harr

    Tricia Harr Well-Known Member

    Tbh I think the print looks pretty old, it's faded and some discoloration also
     
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  8. Tricia Harr

    Tricia Harr Well-Known Member

    Not sure I tried to get closer pics
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  9. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Sorry, you really need to look at it under magnification to see the distinguishing characteristics of print methods. If you have a magnifying glass or loop, you can look at it closely. If you see any kind of regular dot or matrix pattern in the image, it would be a type of photomechanical reproduction. A lithograph printed directly from the artist's stone may have a pattern caused by the grain of the stone, but the ink will appear as tiny irregular islands. If it is then hand colored, it will look like watercolor applied with a brush. Your print might be a "chromolithograph", or a later "color separation" technique.
    This is a useful introduction:
    http://chicagoantiquesguide.com/archives/20060216135609.php
     
  10. Tricia Harr

    Tricia Harr Well-Known Member

    Should I take it out of glass to do this?
     
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  11. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    You may not need to. Just try looking with whatever magnifier you have.
     
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  12. Tricia Harr

    Tricia Harr Well-Known Member

    They look like dots, but not pronounced dots if that makes sense
     
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  14. Tricia Harr

    Tricia Harr Well-Known Member

    Ty for all your help.. do you think if I would take to my local art center they would be able to tell? I would hate to let it go if it possibly is something good.
     
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