Featured CAMEOS: Show & Tell or Ask & Answer

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Bronwen, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    You have stumbled into a hornet's nest here. To the best I can understand them from photos alone, I am convinced the first 2 cameos are shell, not hardstone, & there is no really good reason to think they depict Barbarossa. They are part of a body of similar cameos depicting bearded men, some wearing a turban, a tarboosh or other cap. The shell used is not a member of the Cassis (helmet) family; it is some kind of colorful, thick-walled bivalve (clam type) shell.

    When you see a bunch of them together it makes more sense.

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    The one point on which they may be correct is time of making. Because of the mounts some of them are in - brooches with vertically mounted pins - I had been dating these to turn of the 19th century. However, when one turned up, along with hardstone cameos, as ornamentation on a lavishly decorated elephant tusk that is reliably dated to the 16th century, I had to rethink the matter. The V&A also dates the 3 round cameos of Roman emperors to the 16th.

    These are routinely mistaken for hardstone, especially when set in a way that hides the back, which sometimes bears the concavity that is the scar where the large muscle that closes the 2 parts of the shell was attached.

    The shell used for these is very durable, so some are still around, but they're rare enough to make me think the time & place of making was limited. I would love to know their secrets.
     
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  2. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense if she confused the terms.
     
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  3. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Silly cameo of the day.
    When in Italy...

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  4. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Is that one of Wallach's? Or Amedeo?
     
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  6. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

  8. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Today I learned there is a guy who is known for spaghetti cameos and that's kind of great. :hilarious:
     
  9. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    I know carving is really hard but...:bucktooth: ohno.jpg
     
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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I call them hatchet faces because they look like they were carved with a hatchet.
     
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  11. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Maybe they were emulating Picasso? ;):hilarious:
     
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  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    This one is the Picasso:

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  13. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Oh, yes... now I remember. That one is brilliant!
     
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  14. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Is that a mole??

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    Last edited: Feb 24, 2023
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  15. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    A mole..? I might have asked for my other side to be carved but maybe the sitter was proud of the feature. It's a nicely done portrait.

    Ol' Pablo did like the ladies. A bare chest is a given. :playful:
     
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  16. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Ah, yes, I do tend to use the words interchangeably. I've corrected my inquiry. :)
     
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  17. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    I hope this one is yours. The face has a lot of character.
     
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  18. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Sadly, no, and I agree that it is interesting!
    (I'll see if I can find the listing again, and I'll link it here.)

    Found it!
    Mole man
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    "Retroussé" doesn't begin to cover that nose. His wife loves him, warts & all.

    Edit: Just looked at the listing. I should have said "worts & all." Shape of ear is also unusual.
     
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  20. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    I love him too. As a cameo, at least :hilarious:. He's got a great Character Face. The nose! He's too expensive for me but I will think of him fondly.
     
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