Pocket watch any info would help

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Levi guy, Aug 7, 2019.

  1. Levi guy

    Levi guy Member

  2. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Can you get the back off to show the movement, Levi? Obviously, you want to be careful as to not damage anything.
     
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  3. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    I'm not a watch guy, but others will want to see the movement.
    You will need to inspect your watch to see the proper methods to get to the movement. Do a little research if it is not obvious.
     
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  4. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

    Not a watch expert either, but I'd guess the back either unscrews, or has a small lip to enable you to pry it off. If it doesn't do either of those easily - definitely take the time to figure out how it's supposed to come off - don't force it :)
     
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  5. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Is the name on the dial 'Illinois' ?. Is there something on the back?
    It appears to date from about 1910-1920, it is probably a 7 to 15 jewel lever escapement, the case is cupro-nickel and it has one unusual feature, it is a 'sidewinder' inasmuch as the winding stem is set by the three on the dial instead of the more normal twelve.
    This is common for hunters and half hunters but yours is open faced and shows no sign of a missing front cover.

    The back probably has a small nick or indentation at the edge to insert a knife blade to pop the back off. Caution is advised, use a blunt knife, and sliding the blade around the back works better than brute force.
     
  6. Levi guy

    Levi guy Member

  7. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Looks like afantiques is on the money, in terms of the year (not surprised!). Based on the serial number on the movement, 1912 is the estimated year of production.

    You can plug the serial into the company's database to see more info on the watch (I used 2499339 but that last number may be off..regardless, 0-9 are same production year):
    https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/guide/company/illinois/serial-number-lookup
     
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  8. Levi guy

    Levi guy Member

    Thank you so much sorry it took me so long the back was a screw off back and it was a little stuck
     
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  9. sabre123

    sabre123 Well-Known Member

    Sure thing. @afantiques can probably provide more info now that the movement is visible.
     
  10. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I don't see any screw threads...???
     
  11. Levi guy

    Levi guy Member

    Look on inside of cap
     
  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    can't see it....but you're saying those threads lined up with the two overly large screws ..? would that be it?
     
  13. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    He's saying it's a screwback case. The back turns off.
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ok...the back turns off......so what holds the threads on the cap....to the case ?
     
  15. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I can now see that it is a better than average 15 jewel movement, note that the jewels are set in screwed seats and it has swan neck regulation for really fine timing. I cannot read the writing in the case back, or on the movement if any; it is always a good idea to write out anything like that as well as showing it.
     
  16. Levi guy

    Levi guy Member

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