Mother With Child Drawing

Discussion in 'Art' started by kardinalisimo, Jul 12, 2014.

  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Have this posted some time ago on the Bay art forum. Just trying to revive it. Maybe new suggestions will come up on the medium used and the name of the artist.
    Thanks

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  2. User 67

    User 67 Active Member

    You would have a better idea on the medium than anyone else. I'd have to feel it.

    It looks like Litho crayon and the artist is obviously a fan of Käthe Kollwitz, so it may be a woman artist. The masking tape on the back and the non-professional mat makes it look like student work from a student art show.
     
  3. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I remember this. I wondered why she had an umbrella if the sun was out, but then it might be a parasol. They look like they are going to put flowers on a grave - Dad?
     
  4. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I was thinking maybe charcoal?

    Bev, funny that you said that since the circular thingey in the top right looks more like a ghost than the sun to me.
     
  5. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Litho crayon, like being drawn with it on a stone or plate and then transferred to the paper? When I rub my finger over, it leaves very light residue.
    It is possible to be a student's work but I have to disagree that the piece not being professionally framed is enough to conclude that. Who knows where and how the previous owner acquired it and if he knew who the artist was. On the other hand, I've seen people professionally framing their children's scribbles.
    They look a bit sad, so it is possible they are going to a graveyard.
    Any suggestions on the writings, especially on the first word?
     
  6. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    The second word or name looks possibly like Auvier or Auviet.
     
  7. User 67

    User 67 Active Member

    I agree with you there but like I said, it still "makes it look like" it is.
     
  8. User 67

    User 67 Active Member

    Oprong Amiet

    It is raining. The sun is shining. Either the woman's hand is exploding or she is magically causing a bouquet of flowers to float in front of her to go with her invisible umbrella staff. They are standing by the decrepit front gate practicing an open third position in the hopes that if someone walks by and photographs them it will look like they are walking.
     
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  9. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    LOL. I see the girl carrying the flowers. The mother has her hand around her daughter's hand. In the mother's left hand is a hankie and she's kind of clutching the umbrella to her shoulder. The sun is a bit Van Gogh-ish. On the other hand, it looks like swirling raindrops under the umbrella. The landscape over her left shoulder could be mistaken for Niagara Falls. She's also wearing her bedroom slippers; never a good idea in that weather.
     
  10. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Oh, I agree that the girl is carrying the flowers, and I think the mother is holding a baby to her chest, using both hands.

    So true about the slippers, and they aren't even covering her feet fully. :)
     
  11. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the interpretations on the subject.
    Still not sure if the first name is Oprong. I agree on the Amiet part.
    I know that Lilfont will say, no way, but there was a suggestion before that it could be Cuno Amiet. I never found an exact match to the signatures he used. As far as the style, there is some kind of resemblance to some of his drawings but never found something quite similar either.
    The head of the Swiss department at Sothebys was kind of unsure but told me that most likely that is not Cuno Amiet. So, I ruled out that possibility.
     
  12. elarnia

    elarnia SIWL

    It kinda looks to me like fan art for one of those teen books - R. L. Stine or Christopher Pike type. If so it would be a nighttime in the rain scene and older & younger sisters, not mother & daughter. Just an idea. - cheers
     
  13. User 67

    User 67 Active Member

    There is a lot of incongruity to this piece, which makes it look like student work. The faces look like a hallmark card from the 1960s. The right side of the midground is somewhat abstract. the left side is German expressionist, the sun is impressionist. The figures are standing stiffly; the hands, except for one, is hidden -meaning the artist can't draw hands. Drawing an umbrella is always a challenge, more so than hands. The artist has centered the composition around this damn umbrella, displaying it flat and as a silhouette, not a three dimensional object, which, like I said, is difficult to do. The reason the artist probably didn't draw the umbrella staff is because it would be going through the woman's head. You won't find many artists who will draw more than one umbrella, and those who are good at it like to show off and do them all the time. This is not showing off. The tree and the house, in the background, are very nice, but have nothing to do with the rest of the image. In fact, the background should recede and not be more detailed or 'in focus' than the foreground.

    As far as the name goes, I am pretty bad at reading artist's handwriting. I just wrote what I 'saw', hoping it might help someone figure out the real signature.
     
  14. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Good point about the umbrella, lilfont. The only thing that could be the handle is what's under her left hand/arm, but the perspective is off since I don't see how it could then extend to the middle of the umbrella.

    I think I may have figured one thing out... I think maybe the "sun" or "ghost" in the upper right corner is a whirlwind that starts in the upper left with the faint lines, extends across the umbrella, and ends in the curved shape.

    This sure does look like an illustration for a story, but I suppose it could just an artist's drawing that has nothing to do with anything outside of the drawing itself.
     
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