Featured 1866 antique ring B&P marker help identify

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  1. Alexis Doyal

    Alexis Doyal New Member

    Hello! I bought the following ring from an estate sale in Manhattan. The seller knew nothing about the ring. I now know the inside markers to be B&P (each letter is inside a circle), possibly a crown symbol, 18k gold, sideways anchor for Birmingham Assay office, and dates stamp capital “R” with 4 cut corners made between 1866-67. I am hoping for more information on the style of ring, who B&P might have been, generally history of rings from that time (were they more common at that time or still only for elite classes) would the assay office keep records of who requested authentication at that time or who B&P might be? Thank you for any info!
     

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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    we live & die here , by good clear photo's....
    Please show us more !
     
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  4. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    No duty mark for Queen Victoria?

    We really do need to see clear, readable pictures of the marks.
     
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  5. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Looks like an opal in the ring from that one angle....could you please show us a couple of more closer angles??? And WELCOME to ANTIQUERS!!:happy::happy:
     
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  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That's a white opal all right. The style doesn't look Victorian to me in the slightest, and the opal color is off. More 1960s than 1860s. Being able to see the marks would help.
     
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  7. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    That isn't Victorian in style or manufacture. The setting looks platinum for a start. Really really need to see the mark please. The fact that the date letter cartouche has cut corners is no indicator: almost all Birmingham gold marks do that, unlike silver. If it's a non italic non script capital R, it's probably 1941.
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    That's a lot of table and fingers, and the ring almost as an afterthought.;)
    It looks like it could be a nice ring, but please, as the others asked, photos of the ring from different angles against a plain background, and a photo of the mark. Help us to help you.:)

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    Last edited: Jan 31, 2023
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  9. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    notice how the nails match the opal....:playful:
    interesting hand cut prongs...:wideyed:
    and are those diamonds around the top ??:hungry:

    & is that an old wallet....and new iPhone ??
    ( gives me a thread idea...;))
     
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  10. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Old leather wallet. Nice, but has seen a lot of use.
    Smartphone, may not be an iPhone. Not brand new, but not old either.
    :playful:
     
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  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    :p
     
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  12. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    There's a second ring waiting in the wings too.
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I missed that, where is it?
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    you haven't missed it...... yet !!;)
     
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  15. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Oh. You know what - it's a watch. Carry on.
     
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