Featured Zenith Stotsaker Military Watch Information

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by KSW, Jan 22, 2023.

  1. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Any vintage watch experts out there please!
    I bought a box of dealers scrap and this watch was in it.
    I’m trying to find out a bit more about it.
    It’s a 1940’s Zenith Stotsaker or Bullseye from my research, I’ve found a couple of men’s ones online but no ladies.
    It is only 22mm acrosss with a strap for a small wrist. It’s a military watch with 24hr clock.
    A ladies military watch seems to be quite a rare beast although obviously there were plenty of women in different roles.
    I’ve put it on a few FB watch groups with little result but several have messaged me asking to buy but until I know what I have I’m holding on to it.
    The men’s ones I’ve seen have stamping on the back, mine just had the serial number and a name inscription that I can’t read( any ideas?) Svea? Suea?
    Maybe there just isn’t anything else to learn about it which is why the FB groups are so quiet?
    Thanks for looking :)
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  2. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Despite the Zenith radio collectors and Svea stove collectors, this will garner little interest as no watch collectors like small no name pieces.
     
  3. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Not sure Zenith can be described as ‘no name’ :hilarious:
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Svea, a Swedish girl's/woman's name. Maybe a Swedish military connection?
    Zenith is a good name, and from the queries it is clear that there is interest in this watch.
     
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  5. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Apparently there were 3,600 of the men’s version of this made in the late 40’s, I haven’t yet found another ladies one. Not that it makes it of value as men’s watches are much more sought after but interesting none the less. Zenith want £130 to find out so it may stay a mystery as to how scarce this is.
     
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  6. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    KSW-You mean the Zenith Company wants to charge You 130 pounds for an answer ?...weird.
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :jawdrop:
    Maybe there is a Zenith collector's forum somewhere?
     
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  8. Lark

    Lark Well-Known Member

    130 pounds would end most inquires. I imagine they are bombarded with them. Interesting watch. I play a little game with myself when i see an object and the date is not given right off. I try to guess the date. 1940's was my guess. Interesting watch does it still work? I would have loved to meet the woman that wore it.
     
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  9. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Yep, £130. I’m going to get the jeweller in town to take the back off as I can’t shift it. The I can get some information about the movement. I’ll keep looking, hopefully someone in the know will pop up.

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  10. IvaPan

    IvaPan Well-Known Member

    I also think it is strange to ask this price only for researching their archives.
    Once I approached Augarten Wien porcelain factory about plates I have, and got their answer within a couple of days, polite, comprehensive and absolutely free.
     
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  11. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    True AJ- There's thousands of Forums (of course this is the best !).
    A few months ago I queried a Site in the Midwest,got forwarded to NY,got referred to a collectors group in the UK who passed me on to one of the world's foremost collectors of my item.
    He emailed me abt 10 pages of patent drawings,descriptions & biographical info re the inventor (he's also interested in the piece).
    PS-It was all FREE,and I met a few new friends in the process !
     
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  12. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Delft are a good example of this. The chap I contacted was so generous with his time (can’t remember his name now :confused:) and gives loads of information all for free.
     
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  13. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Wasn't it Kees something or other? At Verwoerd, the Delfts jewellery maker, not to be confused with Royal Delft.
     
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  14. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Yes, but it wasn’t just jewellery as he helped me with a plate. Turned out to be a very common worthless one but he treated it with great respect.
     
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  15. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I wish they were all like that.
     
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  16. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    Can't imagine how a Company Expert (& employee !) wouldn't feel some pride in sharing knowledge of their firm's heritage-especially an old,historical business.
    PS-Most of our US firms get bought & sold every other year-you have to go to Japan to get great Levis !
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Since the wonderful man at Verwoerd was so helpful, maybe try another Dutch site? These people are collectors, restorers and sellers, and I hope they are willing to help you, or at least know someone who can help:

    https://www.veldeszenith.com/
    Email: info@veldeszenith.nl

    They have a miltary Zenith stotsäker. Stotsäker is Swedish for shock proof, so it was made for the Swedish market, which is why there is a Swedish name on the back of yours: https://www.veldeszenith.com/watches/zenith-military-3/
     
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  18. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Thankyou very much, I will contact them to ask if they have any information :)
     
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  19. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    I didn’t realise the translation of Stotsaker was shockproof. I thought it was the model :rolleyes:
     
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  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    In had an inkling, because 'stot' is 'stoot' in Dutch and 'säker' is pronounced almost the same as the Dutch word 'zeker'.*
    And 'stootzeker' could be a slightly odd way of saying shockproof in Dutch.
    I just couldn't see how the word stotsäker could be Swiss, but Swedish makes sense, because Dutch is so closely related to Scandinavian languages.

    *Things you don't want to know, but are there anyway.:hilarious:
     
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