Featured Sterling and coin pocket knives...scrap or sell?

Discussion in 'Silver' started by cartoongirl, Jul 26, 2015.

  1. cartoongirl

    cartoongirl "Don't Blink!"

    Hello! Picked these up yesterday...

    The one with the blade marked 'coin' shows a lot of wear, and is inscribed "Mother', and 'Sept 5...1866'

    The other with the grape pattern has a broken blade marked 'Sterling'

    Sorry for the crummy pics...it's rainy and gloomy this morning.

    Thanks!

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  2. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    No expert, but I would call them "fruit knives" rather than pocket knives. The sharp-pointed "picks" would be for removing pits from stone fruit. Plus silver doesn't get and keep a nice sharp edge for cutting that most pocket knife users would want.
     
  3. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I have seen hundreds of British ones including many Georgian examples but no US made examples. Not really surprising I suppose in England. but I have never even seen one on the internet.
     
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  4. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Baker, nailed it. Folding fruit knives were very useful back when because of bad teeth. One needed to bite into apples, etc.. to eat and that was painful to most people because of bad teeth. Fruit knives allowed them to cut up the fruit to eat rather than biting into it. I think the French started using the sterling and coin silver knives back in the 1700s. Sterling was the metal of choice because citric acids pitted and severely damaged other metals. Also sterling is anti-microbacterial (sp???). The use of these knives quickly spread to England and to America. Following is a thread on a pocketknife forum about fruit knives.
    https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=19395

    A little article about folding fruit knives an eBay:
    http://www.ebay.com/gds/The-History-and-Use-of-Silver-Folding-Fruit-Knives-/10000000018498971/g.html

    Google images of them:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=ste...ChMIxNCW24L5xgIVRc6ACh0DiAKs&biw=1024&bih=649

    --- Susan
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  6. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    I have 3 or 4 myself, which is part of the reason I recognized them. 1 does have non-silver marks from a Sheffield maker on the part of the blades that attaches to the interior and no marks on the "case." The others have no marks on the blades at all, but one has a very faint "sterling" worked into the decoration on one side.
     
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  7. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The scrap value is trivial and I am sure the one with COIN on the blade is good enough to sell. Not for a great deal but way more than a few grams of scrap.
     
  8. cartoongirl

    cartoongirl "Don't Blink!"

    Folding fruit knives...never would have guessed! Thanks for the replies, and thanks for all the links, ladybranch.

    I know zip about silver, but for the price (less than a tenner for both) I thought I would give them a go.

    I'm happy the one with 'Mother' is complete...guessing someone had it engraved as a memorial...very poignant.

    Is the one with the broken blade worth selling? Also, just noticed the numbers '501' on the other side of the broken blade.
     
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  9. cartoongirl

    cartoongirl "Don't Blink!"

    Just saw your post on the selling the coin, af. Thanks!
     
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  10. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Even the broken one would have a place in a reference collection, it's a shame it is not dated like the other.
     
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  11. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I was immediately struck in that they appeared to, first, be made from butter knife handles and then I thought they could be a accessory to them. The info later is good to know! Not seen one ever, that I can recall anyway.
     
  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I gave a little gold one to my ex ...once upon a time.
     
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  13. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Silver is supposed to have antimicrobial (I think that's what ladybranch was thinking about) properties (although to what extent is debated, I believe). Eating with silver utensils was partially about wealth, but also health. It created a safe, sterile environment, which the steel of the era would not (Carbon steel rusts very easily).

    They're very interesting knives. I'd never realised that they made the blades out of silver as well. Learn something every day.
     
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  14. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    And in my opinion, there is a slight "taste" difference between silver and stainless steel (flatware) - one that I have always been aware of and I could USUALLY tell the difference while blindfolded. My grandmother could as well.

    But while on chemotherapy the "taste" became very pronounced, to the point of the stainless causing nausea. Or at least ADDITIONAL nausea...........
     
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  15. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I tried to sell a Victorian 2 inch silver bladed MOP fruit knife on eBay.uk
    It was taken down and I was sanctioned for trying to sell a deadly weapon.:(
    Yet a 10 inch steel carving knife is deemed harmless and allowable.

    Bayonets and antique fruit knives I list on eBay.com (US) now if I ever get them.
    Then on the customs form I have to write "Cutlery Item"
     
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