Crude blue glass 'Columbia' flask or bottle.

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  1. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I am guessing this is American, and I know even less about US glass than I do about British glass, so just about zero.

    It is about 9 inches high, very uneven surface, blank back, the front with the word 'Columbia' moulded in under a bust with stars above.

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    The back.

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    the base

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    not very good. Last try at the front with different lighting.

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    Trash or treasure?
     

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  2. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I have no idea if there's any connection, but in 1893 there was a World's Fair in Chicago called the World's Columbian Exposition.

    Edited to say... Google searches are bringing up Columbia glass flasks from the early 1800s, so seems unlikely the flask had anything to do with the Exposition.

    Assuming the head is a woman, it may represent Lady Liberty.

    This site has some interesting info...
    http://www.sha.org/bottle/liquor.htm
     
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  3. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

  4. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The etsy one looks a lot 'smoother' than mine. The other site will take some time to read. :)
     
  5. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I agree about the Etsy bottle. I have no expertise here, but the shallower design sure makes it look to me like it's much newer and of lesser quality than yours.
     
  6. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    In the 50s and early 60s, Cleavenger Bros made a lot of "flasks" looking like the 1830s and 1840s flasks. They had none of the air bubbles and other imperfections
    of the original flasks. They also had nice perfect tops not the blub tops like the originals had. If you find an almost perfect flash always look at the Cleavengers flasks.
    greg
     
  7. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    If this is an early one, any ballpark figure on the price, possibly on ebay?
     
  8. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I see what I think Greg was saying... the earliest examples I'm seeing on the web have no lip at the top. The glass goes more or less straight up before the top edge. Maybe there's an in-between period, still antique, when the flared top was used for these types of flasks?

    I just learned something new. Apparently the profile is of Columbia, not Lady Liberty. "Columbia" was an adaptation from Christopher Columbus' name and the image was used as a female representation of the U.S. Around 1920, images of the Statue of Liberty began to be used instead of Columbia. Here's a wikipedia article about it...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_(name)
     
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  9. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Wheaton in New Jersey also reproduced bottles like this, but this definitely isn't one of theirs. Is there a pontil mark on the bottom? I'd be willing to believe it's old.
     
  10. George Nesmith

    George Nesmith Well-Known Member

    I think most likely the 1960's mold blown based on the photo posted of the base. These were sold as color accents by folks selling Early American furniture reproductions. Looks like it spent the last few years in an outdoor shed,
     
  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I'd agree that base doesn't look much older than the 50s or 60s.
     
  12. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Can you get a clear picture of the bottom.
     
  13. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    Looking through McKearin's American Glass, I could only find this photo and short text of the Columbia flask ... the one in their photo (#10 and #11) has almost no lip at the top ... but they mention that there were six Columbia flasks each with an eagle on the reverse side. I cannot see what is on the back of yours ... is there anything there?

    Tried to scan the plate showing the flask and the accompanying text ... hope they can be seen OK.
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  14. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The back is blank but rather rough.

    When I get a chance I will show it to a friend of mine who does Glass on the British Antiques Roadshow, Will Farmer.
     
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  15. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Everyone in coins calls her 'French lady Liberty'
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  16. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Af, do you see air bubbles in the glass? That seems to be a key feature of the older bottles.
     
  17. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    It's newer, post 1960. Machine made. Decorator value $5-10. If it were a real Columbia/Eagle in blue it would be worth around $100,000.
     
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  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Oh.....I'll be lookin for those now !!! :hilarious:
     
  19. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Thanks, everyone.
     
  20. brit johnson

    brit johnson New Member

    If it has a seem on it it means its new correct?? i bought mine at an auction i was told it was 1893 its has a seem running down it..
    did you ever figure out what it was? i have a pair of them..
    thanks
     
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