Featured Finally got what I am pretty sure is celluliod. Yay!

This is carved, right? Around what year do you think? I was reading about the company and they changed the name in 1960, so it is at most from then. I can see the lines in the back. Am I correct in my assumption? @Any Jewelry

 

It is a beauty, Michelle. And it looks like hand carved celluloid to me.

 

I am so excited..

 

I have another smaller one but the rose fell out of the setting. I have to fix it but am not sure what kind of glue to use to fix it.

 

Sorry to disappoint you.
I do not believe it is celluloid.

It is 1960s-70s souvenir jewelry. Carved Ivory.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=+1970s+ivory+rose+pin&FORM=HDRSC2

 

It is not ivory. Ivory would be worth more than celluloid wouldn't it? The lines in the back are perfectly parallel. Someone in her taught me about that when they were looking at what they decided were bone earrings.

 

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=carved+celluoid+rose+pin&FORM=HDRSC2

 

Most of those listings call it faux ivory, ivorine. Which is celluloid.

 

BTW, ivory is basically worthless because of all the laws against selling it.

 

Easier to judge in hand, but I'm with @clutteredcloset49 on this one.

I used to have one or three of these. Might take a quick look to see if I still do. Don't think so, but no harm in checking.

 

May be to intentionally skirt the law.

This one (not mine) is actually celluloid.

 

My original favorite plastics website is no longer open to the public and it's been a long time since I was up on this stuff, but was celluloid ever carved?

The pieces in my cache are definitely molded. I know 2-D slabs were cut, but was it ever 3-D carved?

Question open to everyone with a theory.

 

Yes, it was. Most of my hand carved ornamental haircombs are celluloid. And it was the favourite material to replicate ivory, it can be coloured to look like ivory and it can be hand carved like ivory.
The lines on celluloid faux ivory look very much like the lines on ivory, hence faux ivory.

 

Faux ivory (celluloid) dolls hair set:


Detail of brush with ivory-like lines:


Hand carved faux tortoiseshell (celluloid) ornamental comb:


Detail to show fret and carve marks (and totally artificial staining):

 

If I recall correctly, the "faux ivory" celluloid was made in thin sheets laminated together. Which made for uniform and straight lines.

(just deleted a paragraph asking for pics because I see you've posted )

Yes, that's definitely cut, but I consider that part of the 2-D world. A flat sheet cut with a fret saw (or like).

I'm wondering about "blocks" of celluloid carved into something like the rose that started this thread... I can't recall ever reading about such, but again, it's been a long time since I was up on this stuff.

 

Although they did make pool balls out of celluloid, so there were certainly big enough chunks of it about.

 

I'll post them again if you like.

My grandmother had a thick 'ivory' bangle with beautiful handcarved roses. She gave it to me and assured me it was ivory.
The first time I tried to sell it, when I was about 20, I was reprimanded by the first person who came along: Not ivory, celluloid!
A couple of weeks later I sold it, as celluloid, which it was.

 

Michelle, how big is your rose? I remember the little ivory rose pendants & earrings were popular in the 60s, but they were quite small, not even as big around as a dime.

I think the question is whether it is carved ivory or molded Celluloid-type material. Even if Celluloid can be carved just like ivory, can't imagine it makes any sense to put that much labor into cutting a rose from what is essentially plastic.

One of these?

 

Can't help you with the celluloid but I can help you with the glue!
Make sure you buy it from a proper shop though as lots of fake stuff on eBay etc. Must have proper batch number etc on it.
https://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/gs-supplies-hypo-tube-cement/566231-1000

 

They counterfeit glue? Really? Why?