Featured CAMEOS: Show & Tell or Ask & Answer

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Bronwen, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Yes, I am presuming it's Queen Victoria. :happy:
    I've always wondered about that little crown!
     
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  2. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

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  3. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Queen Victoria's little crown "follows the standard design for British crowns. It is made up with two arches joining at a monde..."

    The crown on the cameo would be made up with three arches. Artistic license? Or did any other queens wear little crowns?
     
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  4. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    The description I read (and I think the one that is accurate) is that the crown is made of "four half arches" ... still a bit of a problem... perhaps the cameo artist couldn't resist showing all of them?:bucktooth::hilarious:
     
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  5. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Bringing her round to this side so we can discuss her properly.

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  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    You're all doing just fine without me, but of course I'll put in my tuppence.

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    Really great find, @bluumz Victoria, about as she looked in the portrait used for this 1887 half crown coin:

    Queen Victoria 2 1887 half crown.JPG

    The cutter got great vitality into the face.

    I doubt the setting is much older than the cameo; seems to have undergone some fixes/alterations, muddying the picture. It's quite possible the cameo was made in her memory, rather than during her lifetime.

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  7. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

  8. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Upon reading this article, I thought, "well that explains a lot of cameos on ebay," (though I have no idea if the trend it describes actually happened -- or this was just a means for suppliers to sell "gravers and scoopers").

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  9. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Woah! Great page, Jivvy!:woot:
    You're right, that may explain some awful "bull's neck" ladies:facepalm::hilarious:
     
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  10. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    My favorite bit about the article was the fictional conversation upon gifting a friend with a "choice bit" -- "oh, that's nothing, I've done dozens of them."

    Yes, and they're all on ebay now, wench. :hilarious:
     
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  11. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Thanks for sharing, @Jivvy, that's fabulous!
     
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  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I don't know to what extent it was actually taken up, but after J.B. Marsh published 'The Art of Shell Cameo Cutting' (available as a reprint & partially on line) the idea of this being a suitable activity for gentle young ladies who already had some skill at drawing seems to have been widely discussed. E.g.:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=p...Q#v=onepage&q=j b marsh cameo cutting&f=false

    (Didn't we have something about the Parisian Diamond Company in a recent thread? Scroll down to pg 115 for one of their ads.)

    Marsh delivered a paper on the subject to the Royal Society for the Encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce, where there was concern that the art of gem engraving was being lost in Britain. An academy for teaching it was proposed, & James Ronca was approached about heading it. However, the project seems to have been scuttled when Ronca was asked if he foresaw a future in which graduates could find employment & he told them no.

    While 'scoopers' makes more sense, I have also seen it as 'scorpers'.
     
  13. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Well, you cannot search old newspapers without tripping over articles about young ladies and their porcelain painting skills, but not so much with the DIY Cameos.

    Not that I've looked extensively, but the point is, with porcelain painting, you don't have to look, the articles chase after you. ;)
     
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  14. Phaik Hooi

    Phaik Hooi Well-Known Member

    tq for sharing. great article!! @Jivvy

    "behold my cameo!" from the modern maid's den in old penang :hilarious::hilarious:
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    does anyone have any suggestions as how to attach a pin or loop with general household items and super glue??
     
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  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    There's really only one person to ask: @kyratango !!!!

    It's amazing how many Roman antiquities I'm seeing from sellers in Thailand.
     
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  16. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Probably similar to nowadays, we all get dragged along in the hype of a new hobby, then realise that what you actually produce after hours of blood sweat and tears is total tat and bears no resemblance to the amazing picture on the advertisement or box :hilarious:
     
  17. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite


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  18. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
    Thankyou, I needed that giggle. Unfortunately my attempt at a cameo would make the one on the right look good.
    My daughter at nursery however thought she nailed a portrait of me......:eek::oops: not. She assures me those are buttons on my shirt........
    and I have no eyes....
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  19. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    OMG, I hope you frame that and keep it forever. :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
  20. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    To be kept forever!. The nursery carer couldn't keep a straight face when she gave it to me- can't think why!
     
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