Silver Pencil Part

Discussion in 'Silver' started by Charles Pack, Jan 2, 2023.

  1. Charles Pack

    Charles Pack Member

    Found this inch long piece of silver at a farmhouse site where I have found a flat button and a Block I Confederate button. Could this be a pencil or pen part? It has the word ‘NOT’ on it with other engraving. It also had a brass like part inside of it.. it is about same diameter as drinking straw.
     

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  3. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Does the brass bit slide up and down at all?

    My guess - and this is only guess without being able to see the entire thing...is that it's a slide-action or drop-action pencil-holder, in nickel-plate.

    I'm not sure what the "NOT" refers to. It does not appear to be part of a larger word, so it wouldn't be, for example, an "ONOTO" fountain pen or whatever... which is a real brand, btw. It's from England...but this is America...a highly unlikely place for a broken silver pen/pencil to show up, if it was made in England...
     
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  4. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    My guess would be that it looked something like this, when it was intact:

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    ...although I doubt that your piece is silver. Anything silver that's been found in the ground like that would be badly tarnished by now. I'd say yours is nickel.
     
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  5. Charles Pack

    Charles Pack Member

    Thank You for the info. I have read a little about "Drop Action" Pencil-Holders and will examine the interior piece and describe it here later. It does slide freely. From the reading on my Metal Detector, I was confident it was silver, but its hard to tell. It is very thin and does not appear to be a plating. The word NOT is almost certainly a stand alone word, not part of a larger word.
     
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  6. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Have you cleaned it at all? Polished it? I just don't buy that it's made of silver. Unless it was cleaned after it was found, because silver would've tarnished.
     
  7. Charles Pack

    Charles Pack Member

    I haven’t cleaned it. When I find old silver coins they typically tarnish some but when I find a sterling silver item like an old ring recently, they look new.
    I’m not certain it’s silver, I may pick up a test kit..
    I looked at the inside part closer. Pictures below. It has obvious outside threads.
    It is very small, I’m not sure how small the drop pencils are.
    I am most intrigued by the one word: NOT.. what could that be a part of…
    I found another antique silver pencil metal detecting several years ago, just part of the outside silver part survived but it had some words on it that tied it to a department store in Ohio……
    I appreciate the feedback
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  8. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    Sterling drop-action pencils are very small, probably 2 inches at most.
     
  9. Charles Pack

    Charles Pack Member

    Over on the Vintage Mechanical Pencil Identification Facebook group I got this comment
    "Forget me not pencils were a common gift of affection in antebellum America"
    A google search found only one example but it fits perfect with time line and appearance:
    STUNNING EDWARDIAN "FORGET ME NOT" SILVER MECHANICAL PENCIL A "FORGET ME NOT" pencil made circa 1900-1914



    Pencil silver 3.JPG Pencil Silver.JPG
     
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  10. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    That'll explain it, then. Very nice :)
     
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