Identifying Oriental Brass Object

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Aryas Thule, May 26, 2019.

  1. Aryas Thule

    Aryas Thule New Member

    Greetings,

    I picked up this object at an estate sale. I can identify neither the script nor the figures. No idea if it is an antique or a fake. Has anyone seen anything like it before? IMG_6197 (1).jpg IMG_6196 (1).jpg IMG_6195 (1).jpg IMG_6194 (1).jpg IMG_6193 (1).jpg
     
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  2. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Hi and WELCOME, Aryas!! you don't say how large it is, but the figures near the top, look a bit like from India....at least to me.....I've been wrong before too!!! Wait for others offer their opinions!
     
  3. Aryas Thule

    Aryas Thule New Member

    The object measures 29 cm tall, with a top diameter of 10 cm and a bottom diameter of 18 cm.

    I am afraid if I rub it the wrong way or utter the wrong syllables I might unleash some eldritch abomination...
     
  4. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Can we get a pic of the top and the bottom? Knee jerk reaction was 1970s India .A pedestal for something. I really like it .
     
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  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Welcome Aryas.
    Interesting object. It was made in a Persian influenced region, which covers a chunk of Asia. Maybe we can narrow it down when we see more of the item.
    The stylized script is puzzling.
    You mean like BUPUB?:muted:
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  6. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Souvenir deco thing, I’d bet $1000. The text is all fantasy, as is the rest of it. Casting is mediocre. Make a lamp or something out of it.
     
  7. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    the alphabet reminds me of Armenian.
     
  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I think it's Devanagari again. I agree it's a pedestal, but I think a fair bit older than the 70s.
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    I don't think it is Devanagari. A Caucasian script like Armenian, like fid suggested, was one of my considerations as well.
    There have always been many Armenians in Persia, maybe that is a clue.
     
  10. Aryas Thule

    Aryas Thule New Member

    Here are some more photos of the script and figures. The figures are all different. It is hollow on the inside and open on both ends.
    IMG_6199.jpg IMG_6200.jpg IMG_6201.jpg IMG_6202.jpg IMG_6203.jpg IMG_6205.jpg IMG_6207.jpg
     
  11. Aryas Thule

    Aryas Thule New Member

    It is very similar to this 19th Century Qajar Candlestick / Torch Holder, but the script is still puzzling. Z05A0431_l.jpg
     
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  12. Fid

    Fid Well-Known Member

    Ethiopian would be my second choice.
     
  13. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Torch holder makes sense.
     
  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Could be stylized Armenian, could be stylized Arabic. Some older Arabic scripts can only be deciphered by Islamic scholars.
     
  15. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    I’m thinking the decoration is fully consistent with the type found on the more common brass trays. I’m guessing these are an outgrowth of the decorated brass tray industry, maybe an attempt to provide a smaller product that tourists would be more likely to buy to carry away or send home. The big brass trays are harder to carry and much more expensive to ship.
     
  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Those trays normally have much more recognisably Arabic/Farsi type scripts and/or tughras.
     
  17. Aryas Thule

    Aryas Thule New Member

    Can anyone point to one of these trays for comparison?
     
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