Featured CAMEOS: Show & Tell or Ask & Answer

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Bronwen, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Well there is just a whole lot going on in there, this will take some pondering.
     
    kyratango and Bronwen like this.
  2. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Xristina and Bronwen like this.
  3. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    I’m going to go with Athena/Minerva, goddess of war and wisdom. She has her spear, chariot horses on her helmet, and the guardian serpent of the Athenian Acropolis.

    DD0138E5-09C0-4C21-9A08-8C9A7C8F439A.jpeg
    D3F82395-5EC4-464A-B9C0-5ABC688F9DD8.jpeg
     
  4. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    This is my latest acquisition. I have been wanting a high relief cameo for some time and acquired this one at a very good price! I think it’s nicely done. Is she Flora? Bacchante?
    There are no marks on the setting but it tests as 9kt gold (I tested it). Seller advertised it as "gold filled" and stated it was gold over silver. I believe this to be true only of the pin/catch as it is an entirely different color than the setting. The pin/catch may have been added at a later date than the making of the piece? Using a loupe, I can see some nicks and scratches in the gold twist, and it is definitely solid, not plated/overlaid. There are some messy solder areas. Opinions on age?
    I did find the scratched number 48 on the back of the shell, not sure what that means. At first I thought it might indicate size but the height of the cameo itself is approximately 30mm. The number is visible in the photo with the light behind the cameo, behind the neck of the figure.

    9FC51328-4397-47B0-B7B6-20F9AB6ED7B3.jpeg A3D3961D-BB77-4FF6-A80C-2C351E704527.jpeg 1B5E3BD6-D00D-4953-A35D-31E8219E312F.jpeg E01FBC61-0A2B-4EC8-A947-620953779937.jpeg 9094D5E9-D41E-4BE0-B86C-5B3A28B61DBD.jpeg 53F67BFC-9AB4-4966-81BA-2D4F6B7B8C06.jpeg F2FD6E9D-50F8-4D9D-A629-467643789855.jpeg 29975A44-CF5E-4EEA-8F92-4CC3A4DC707C.jpeg
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2019
    BMRT, Aquitaine, kyratango and 5 others like this.
  5. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Good answer, with a sorting of the one bit I was still struggling with -- the "medallion"...

    EDIT: Well, I was also struggling with the lack of representation of Boudica's daughters.
     
  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    We're sharp this Sunday. Yes, Minerva/Athena, after the one by Aspaios, which is thought to resemble the one that was in the Parthenon. This one was made by Girometti:

    [​IMG]

    https://www.britishmuseum.org/resea...earchText=athena+bust&sortBy=imageName&page=1

    You can tell that the auctioneer was misled by the sphinx that crests her helmet and the extravagance of the cutter of the shell cameo in adding more snakes to the Medusa on her shield so that they look like asps at the figure's breast.
     
    kyratango, Figtree3, Houseful and 3 others like this.
  7. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    She's so pretty! Wreathed in ivy, so a maenad/bacchante or Ariadne, the wife of Dionysus/Bacchus. That particular hairdo is especially associated with Ariadne. See:

    http://www.beazley.ox.ac.uk/record/D4913B30-F3E7-4BBE-B257-7722293460FD

    She was cut using a section of helmet shell from under a 'horn' of the shell to get that deep curvature. I can't tell from the photos whether the clasp has been replaced. It is from well into the 20th century, but the cameo & the rest of the mount look more turn of the century.

    Numbers scratched into the back can be put there as inventory numbers by dealers or pawnbrokers. You sometimes see cameos described as being 'signed', only to learn from photos that there is a number this way, not initials or anything that could reliably construed as having been placed there by the cutter.
     
    kyratango and Figtree3 like this.
  8. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Thank you, Bronwen!
    I agree with Ariadne. I was unsure about Bacchante since there were no grapes within the wreath in her hair.
    The info about the horn of the shell is very interesting, I wondered how such high relief was achieved. The coloring of the horn of this particular shell was not so attractive, however!
     
    kyratango and Bronwen like this.
  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    There is more than one type of helmet shell used. Colors range from bright orange to more of a dull taupe. Think I like the deep chocolate brown ones the best. :)
     
    kyratango, Figtree3 and bluumz like this.
  10. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Wasn't looking for her, but my "Pink Glass Lady" needs a new name. :p

    temp01.jpg

    oh, she's everywhere today.

    temp02.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2019
    kyratango, Figtree3 and Bronwen like this.
  11. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    kyratango and Xristina like this.
  12. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    She's Czech glass Psyche minus the wing ornament. And yes, she is showing up quite a bit.

    In other cameo explorations, I discovered a thing I never knew existed: "Victorian nail head covers".

    temp03.jpg
     
  13. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    What nails were they made to cover?
     
    kyratango, Bronwen and Xristina like this.
  14. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    As best I can tell, nails used for hanging pictures. Some covers slipped over the nail head just like a button cover, others were a screw top (for a specially made nail).

    However, my knowledge is all based on seller info -- so it's served with a grain of salt. :bored:
     
    kyratango, Xristina and Bronwen like this.
  15. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    They used to hang pictures from a "picture rail" - a plate rail-type affair. That would involve visible nails, so it makes sense the Victorians would make covers for them.
     
  16. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Here we go, here's the cameo I found yesterday.
    I know zilch about these.

    Its 18.6 grams and the mount looks quite crude and looked like base metal, no markings at all.
    However it did react to ammonia and clean up and does acid test for silver.

    Light shows through the shell but it is quite thick.

    Apologies for pictures, they are from my phone.
    My 3 cameras have uncharged batteries.

    20190521_091043.jpg

    20190521_091046.jpg

    20190521_091141.jpg

    20190521_091326.jpg

    20190521_091402.jpg

    20190521_091437.jpg
     
  17. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    She looks worried. :)

    I'm interested in the setting. It has a sort of Art Deco feel to it.

    I like this cameo, mostly because it seems unusual. Bronwen has probably seen some like it before.
     
    daveydempsey, Bronwen and kyratango like this.
  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The setting definitely has a deco vibe & the whole piece strikes me as 1930s. Not a portrait, a fairly contemporary looking 'pretty lady' of the period. Think what makes it eye-catching is the choice of shell, so that instead of a sharp contrast between background & figure, she almost looks like she is appearing out of a mist.

    I always wonder why so many cutters left pointy little chins to go with pointy little noses, when they could have made the piece so much better by chiseling away a smidge more.

    It actually required less skill to make something so big, but people like big, so should attract buyer interest.
     
  19. Jivvy

    Jivvy the research is my favorite

    Frequently, I wonder that frequently.
     
  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    At times, I have had the temptation to take my little diamond dust nail file to one.
     
    kyratango, Jivvy and daveydempsey like this.
Draft saved Draft deleted
Similar Threads: CAMEOS Show
Forum Title Date
Jewelry How to store cameos Mar 19, 2024
Jewelry Cleaning Lave Cameos Mar 12, 2024
Jewelry French Glass Cameos Oct 17, 2023
Jewelry Help needed with age of 2 cameos, please Sep 30, 2023
Jewelry Brass brooch with faux cameos Jun 2, 2023

Share This Page