Featured Lefton Scottish boy in kilt - what number?

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  1. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    I have learned that this figurine is probably from 1950 - 1955 but I haven't found another one like him. Can anyone tell me his number,or where to find it?
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  2. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

  3. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

  4. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Yep - that's him sis.
    Har har King - I think.:wideyed:
     
  5. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    @c*me*4*lefton*info

    Don't know that c*me is around very often, but that's who will have the answer.

     
  6. LeftonGuy

    LeftonGuy Well-Known Member

    #1373 5" high colored Highlander from around 1954 I believe (judging from the photo in the catalogue). The catalogue is undated but I have pretty much figured the date out since I have a large number of Lefton catalogues to use for comparisons. There were either 3 or 6 (?) different "poses" to the set for the #1373.

    This is kind of unusual (coming in 6 poses?) for Lefton. Have to spend more time later describing the #1373s. I think there were two different sets of 3 - maybe one red and maybe one yellow? The worthpoint red items are confusing me and are #1373s I think. More later when I have more time and a better chance to do some thought gathering.
     
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  7. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Thanks LeftonGuy!
     
  8. LeftonGuy

    LeftonGuy Well-Known Member

    Have more time now.

    Looks like there are 6 poses. The catalogue is B&W so can not tell what colors they were made in, though obviously in yellow - and red and green (going by what I see on Worthpoint).

    Note the ones on Worthpoint have no ink stamp. I am surprised your does as Lefton often left off this mark on smaller items that did not have a lot of space on the bottom to place the mark.

    I can post pics from the catalogue if it interests anyone. They are small B&W pics but maybe helpful or interesting to someone. Another interesting thing about these early B&W catalogues - George Z. Lefton (the founder of Lefton China, God rest his soul) took some of the pics himself for the catalogues. And when they were printed in the catalogues they are mirror images (left turned to right etc). That is the case with the pics for this item it seems. When you print a picture from a negative if you turn the negative upside down in the enlarger when printed (emulsion side up instead of the correct emulsion down) - viola mirror image photos. Another point about this catalogue this appears in. There are wonderful things on that catalogue page I have never seen for sale.

    In addition to the catalogues I spent one winter typing in all the catalogue info I have into an Excel sreadsheet (which has over 190,000 data entries on over 39,000 Lefton items, yeah it took all winter) - which allows me to see at a glance when an item was sold by Lefton and for how long once I have the number. This appears in an early B&W catalogue and appears ONLY in one catalogue which makes me think it was not sold by Lefton for a very long time (only one year it appears). This has implications as to rarity in my opinion.

    These early catalogues I am not sure and can not be sure if I have them all - but I have never seen an early B&W one I did not have. Point being it may appear in another early catalogue - but from my experience I would be tempted to doubt it (until I see the evidence to change my mind).

    If anyone has a Worthpoint account I would be interested in knowing what they sold for - but not interested enough to join Worthpoint myself. LOL.

    I have about 4000 Lefton items in my personal collection - but not these. Not an offer to buy or trying to create sympathy - but it relates to rarity in my opinion.

    My 2 cents worth
     
  9. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Thanks again Lefton Guy. I'd love to see pictures from the catalog.
    Those three figurines on Worthpoint sold for a total of $14.99. :eek::(
    I have found quite a few of the red ones by googling but no other yellow ones.
    Do the ones in the catalog have round bases or bases like this one?
     
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  10. LeftonGuy

    LeftonGuy Well-Known Member

    see below - pics from early B&W Lefton dealer catalogue from around 1954
     
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  11. LeftonGuy

    LeftonGuy Well-Known Member

  12. LeftonGuy

    LeftonGuy Well-Known Member

    I believe yours to be the middle figurine in the first pic above. Note mirror image (left turned to right etc). Note also catalogue pics are of what I call "salesman samples" and often/typically exhibit more and better detail.
     
  13. LeftonGuy

    LeftonGuy Well-Known Member

    Bases appear to be like yours - not round. I would expect round base examples to be from a later year.
     
  14. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

  15. LeftonGuy

    LeftonGuy Well-Known Member

    I do appreciate your Worthopoint info.

    But skeptical me would have to see some evidence those on Worthpoint above are Lefton (besides a sellers description of them). I did not see any in my admittedly limited view of that Worthpoint page despite the listing's mention of marked as shown (I can see no marks). I see them on ebay also - Lefton by seller description only (no marks). I do not see them in the catalogues either although I did a far from exhaustive search of my catalogue collection (which would take many days).

    I also keep a spreadsheet of all Lefton (marked) items I have seen but are not in the catalogues - that list amounts to 40 some items compared to my catalogue list of over 39,000 items. These are not in that list either - but I will of course add them with proper evidence (seen with a mark or label).

    The high foreheads exhibited in those are not typical for Lefton figurines - more typical for Ucagco. But of course in the world of 1950s MIJ (Made in Japan) figurines where the various importers copied other's items almost anything is possible. Not to mention the Japanese manufacturers selling the "same" thing to different US importers (like Lefton and Ucagco).
     
  16. LeftonGuy

    LeftonGuy Well-Known Member

    Just a note - I see Google has picked up on Lefton #1373.
     
  17. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Yup - I saw that. :)
     
  18. LeftonGuy

    LeftonGuy Well-Known Member

    Maybe it will send others who want to know about Lefton numbers here. Hopefully anyway. I am always happy to help with Lefton if I can.
     
  19. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I don't put much stock in Worthpoint. All they do is capture sales from around the internet and post them. You're at the mercy of the seller as to identification. Worthpoint doesn't verify anything.
     
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