Whistles and duck calls? Help, please!

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by scoutshouse, May 18, 2015.

  1. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Ok, I've gone thru about 50 types of whistles, the majority were wooden duck whistles...

    Then assorted ceramics, some of which I learned were "water whistles" - never heard of them.

    Hoping someone out there can help me out these last 6 or 8? Anything you can add would be helpful... I'll just write what I know (or think):

    Green doesn't seem old, but where from?
    The nester I believe is old - Rockingham glaze?
    Canary? Japan? sweet
    Soldier hand marked Made in Italy, I found a comp, of much better quality faience

    2015-05-17 17.50.29.jpg 2015-05-17 17.50.45.jpg
    Wood box with tin mouth piece - No idea - it strikes me as German, but has US patent 1907
    Tin or pewter, wood and leather - No idea 2015-05-17 17.52.16.jpg 2015-05-17 17.52.39.jpg 2015-05-17 17.52.46.jpg 2015-05-17 17.53.03.jpg

    Lighter one is listed a number of ways: asking over $100 - as old as 1770 Revolutionary War, with book reference, http://www.zacharymillerantiques.com/revolutionary-war-horn-whistle/ and antique police whistle. http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/amazing-antique-carved-horn-police-154695046
    But none sold for more than $32

    The darker whistle: I only find one (with a slider) similar listed as Civil War Era stag horn whistle? sold for $27 - it has a remnant of a chain and ring to attach it on metal band. 2015-05-17 17.53.37.jpg

    Thanks for lookin'
     

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  2. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Cool but no clue.
     
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  3. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Lol
    Damn mystery whistles
    Grrr
     
  4. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Duck whistles could be good. These are mostly dime store novelties from the 30s and 50s. Children's toys.
     
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  5. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    Have you tried any of the bird whistles with a little water in them? They sound just like birds twittering. Very cool. I've had 'em at the market. A little tweet and folks all start looking for birds.

    The Patent marked piece looks like a pipe from a pipe organ.
     
  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

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  7. Taupou

    Taupou Well-Known Member

    I can help with the ceramic ones. Green bird is contemporary, from China. Yellow one is also contemporary, from Japan. Both of minimal value, $5 or under.

    White bird on nest is antique English Staffordshire, was made in many slight variations over a period of years, $50-100 or more, depending on condition. Italian figural, probably the most desirable of the lot. Values, of course, depend on if they actually whistle. That will be essential to collectors. If they don't work, they're not considered whistles anymore, even if they once were.
     
  8. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    If they don't work, they're not considered whistles anymore

    That blows...
     
  9. 42Skeezix

    42Skeezix Moderator Moderator

    .........sorry..........couldn't resist...........
     
  10. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much!

    I agree Skeezixs - For some reason, I'm reading that "E Mel" as German, but couldn't square that with a US Patent. I was wondering if it might be a tuning device?
    SIS, I looked at the museum last night, it's pretty much boatswain whistle collector info.
    Taupou: I did see a few of the Staffordshire pieces described as Rockingham. I just needed some confirmation I was on the right track. I think it is a water whistle.
    (How do you know which are water whistles?)
    The Italian piece is much cruder than the comp I found, so I just assumed it was newer and not especially valuable. They're asking about $200 OBO, but found none sold...
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/novelty-whistle-ceramiche-tasca-nove-Italian-tin-glazed-/141660776863

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  11. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I doubt the wooden ones are water. They may be but I 'wooden't' try it unless sure. Just put a little water in the others if you are confident about it and they would either work or not. Then drain them well.
     
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  12. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    I had a wooden whistle
    but it wooden whistle
    Then I got a tin whistle
    now I tin whistle


    I think water whistles are ceramic...
     
  13. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    And varieties of plastic.
     
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  14. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

  15. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I didn't read everything, or check the museum site that SIS provided.

    The last picture the white bone or horn, may be 1880s-early1900s whistle. What they called a "Police Call"

    I'm sure it is pictured in a book I have somewhere on Old West memorabilia.
     
  16. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Hi - CC
    That's the one that was referenced as Revolutionary War (!) 1770-1780

    Superb turned horn whistle. Wood mouthpiece held in place with a pair of round headed steel tacks. Outstanding old untouched surface. According to Neumann and Kravic’s, Collectors Illustrated Encyclopedia of the American Revolution, “Whistles were apparently a common means of signaling and giving commands” A similarly turned example is pictured on page 272 (image “9″). Whistles of this period are rarely found. Still sounds great. - Asking $120

    Really different results on that one, but that's the only one that gave a date... one other called it a police whistle - sold for $32
     
  17. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I thought you said the darker horn was the Civil War era, not the light color one.
    Did I misread yet again?

    Des Moines Police Department Museum
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  18. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    The lighter one has the same shape, material, wood mouthpiece, small nails, and hanger as the link... That's what they're comparing it to, anyway. I don't have the book, unfortunately.

    I'm mad at myself bc I did see on like the bottom black (ebony) one with the bone slide (more similar than the all bone one). It's difficult (from other descriptions) to distinguish which are really duck whistles or possibly signals or police, etc. Many dissimilar shapes were called "pintails," it's hard to tell if people are just wishing they were duck whistles - on top of that, don't sound like ducks at all - you have to learn how to use them properly.

    It made me wonder: what's the diff between duck whistle and duck call? I think bird calls have some kind of vibrating reed, which none of these have. They all have cork balls...
     
  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    They all have cork balls...

    Skeez....this one's all yours !! :hilarious:
     
  20. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    (Cork Balls)

    Just wondering how long and who? Ruby Slippers WINS! haha

    Why can't clowns have kids?
     
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