Gold box engraving

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  1. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    This one looks like it says something slightly different but that would rhyme?

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    Or is the first letter of the last word just written in a different script?
     
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  2. Searchers

    Searchers Member

    I wonder if someone modified or attempted to modify the script on the differing corner.... surely makes sense that it’s an amalgamation being as it was such a multicultural area
     
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  3. Bronwen

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  4. Searchers

    Searchers Member

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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    is yours 10 cm wide..?
     
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  6. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I have a feeling that we look at different boxes...
    It is Б (B) and not Ф (F), and к (k) not н (n).
     
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  7. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    With Fig's help we got the inscription worked out & were able to do some biographical research, because he was very prominent in his day. Then I leaned on a friend to see if he could provide a contact at the Hermitage. Woman he knew does not work in the field of modern engraved gems, but took great interest in this one, to my everlasting gratitude. She finally did something I did not have the nerve to do & brought it to the attention of Julia Kagan, the grande dame in the field. Although the Russian court took up engraved gems with as much passion as their relatives in Europe, according to Dr. Kagan, their domestic production of gems is not well documented, so the emergence of this rather unprepossessing piece was exciting for her. This is from a brief entry on Dobrokhotov:

    He executed a large number of gems, including, Portrait of Alexander I (1815), Mercury Bringing the Golden Apple to Paris, portraits of A. V. Suvorov, A. N. Olenin, Nicholas I and many others.

    The Suvorov cameo is still known; the Olenin is/was lost. Who knew it had gone to Hawaii?
     
  9. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    It is the same word, different writing of the letter, even the same person could write it differently
     
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  10. April07

    April07 Well-Known Member

    Wonderfull story! Great that you managed to reach out to the Hermitage
     
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  11. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    If we are still talking about the last word, the one for "friend" -- the first letter is equivavlent to a "d" in the Latin/ Roman alphabet used by English speakers. When I took Russian classes I learned that when written in script the lower-case "d" often can look the same as a lower-case "g" would look in English script writing. -- In fact, somewhat strangely, I sometimes used to accidentally make my English-language lower-case d's look like g's when writing in English during and after the years I studied Russian. So, there were occasional mistakes to correct!

    @April07 I know you are aware of this. I am just writing to explain to others.
     
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  12. axelrich

    axelrich Active Member

    Love the engraved work on Ivory.
     
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